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PowerSpurs said:
A couple of things which illustrate a massive problem with the Laws at least in my opinion. A few minutes ago Xhaka blatantly and deliberately badly fouls Grealish to stop a breakaway. Gets a yellow card and concedes a free kick neither of which affect anything.
In our match Dier slightly mistimes a kick on the ball in the penalty area and that effectively hands the opposition a goal.
No argument with either decision under the current Law. But wouldn't the game be much fairer if any deliberate foul was a penalty and a mistimed challenge never was?
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I'm more annoyed at the lack of consistency on bookings for stopping breaks, to be honest.
Xhaka's was ludicrously obvious, to the point of risking something more than a yellow, but they're often just ignored, depending on who's playing.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
I'm more annoyed at the lack of consistency on bookings for stopping breaks, to be honest.
Xhaka's was ludicrously obvious, to the point of risking something more than a yellow, but they're often just ignored, depending on who's playing.
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My issue is that yellow cards are considered to be something that's worth the risk. So by definition the offending team benefits from conceding them. All deliberate fouls should leave the offending team worse off so there would be no point in doing them.
 
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PowerSpurs said:
My issue is that yellow cards are considered to be something that's worth the risk. So by definition the offending team benefits from conceding them. All deliberate fouls should leave the offending team worse off so there would be no point in doing them.
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I understand what you mean, but I'm not sure that your solution is the right way to go.
 
PowerSpurs said:
Why?
You are happy that deliberate cheating goes unpunished and minor offences decide matches? The concept of a penalty area encourages diving apart from anything else.
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I hate deliberate cheating but that means for deliberate foul play like shirt pulling, you'll be giving 100s of penalties away each game. As for diers mistimed challenge, i'd say that was deliberate foul play (see it all subjective which will lead to even more inconsistent calls) as he was swinging his leg when the ball was miles away and gone even if werner went down easily.

So nope, keep the rules as they are thanks
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
I understand what you mean, but I'm not sure that your solution is the right way to go.
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The basketball "team fouls" regime could help here.
There is a team foul total threshold T.
Every foul after T means a "free throw" against you.

So for football you could have that the player that commits
foul T+1 gets the yellow, regardless of the triviality.
Add some number N to T, and go again.

Now you add some random risk into the game.
A player could get a yellow for a trivial offence, which could
push them into game ban totals. Or if they are already on
a yellow then they are off.

A suitable value for T/N can be derived "Big data" styley
(there is reams of source data on fouls committed in games
to do stats on) .
 
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The deliberate foul by Xhaka resulting in a free kick was of no advantage to Aston Villa. I think that as well as a yellow card it should result in 10 minutes off the pitch. It happens in other sports and I see no reason why it should not be used in football. Getting the wording of the law would take careful consideration, but it would be a way of providing an immediate advantage the opposing team.
 
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