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johnsonsbaby said:
Just a word on the tweet that Davies made about scousers. It was made in 2013 to his good scouse mate Alan Scurry, a fellow scholar player at PNE at the time, also tagging in Josh Amis, another scouser and scholar. Davies went on to get a contract from Preston and Scurry and Amis were released. They are still friends. Anyone trying to read something into it, don't bother, it was a joke between them. I can understand him deleting it, without context it could need explaining. A bit like Doherty deleting his love of Arsenal tweets from his youth after joining Spurs.

Stirrers always want to stir.
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does anyone actually care? Maybe because I’m not a scouser I’m not really affected but guys coming to play football that’s all. Clearly doesn’t hate all scousers and was as you say just a random tweet put out 8 years ago...

it’s more a stick for rival fans to beat him with than actual Liverpool fans I’d imagine.
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
does anyone actually care? Maybe because I’m not a scouser I’m not really affected but guys coming to play football that’s all. Clearly doesn’t hate all scousers and was as you say just a random tweet put out 8 years ago...

it’s more a stick for rival fans to beat him with than actual Liverpool fans I’d imagine.
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100% not. If he'd have made some crack about Hillsborough or Heysel I'd not want him near the club, but Scousers and Mancs calling each other out? Well put it this way, the B/S hear Mancs singing songs about bonfires, eating rats and killing our own fans, but still embrace Uniturd as their second (sometimes first) club.
 
Libby said:
We've got no money mate. This is a late desperate signing from us so I wouldn't be expecting anything more to come out of it.
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God knows we gave you enough of that over the years. Think Mane was the only bargain we got - whom you sold willingly. Virgil we had to pay a 50% surcharge on for tapping him up (fair enough), but Lovren? Jesus tonight. And Clyne - great player, great signing.... until he turned gangsta on drugs and booze (allegedly).
 
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HR Pufnstuf said:
100% not. If he'd have made some crack about Hillsborough or Heysel I'd not want him near the club, but Scousers and Mancs calling each other out? Well put it this way, the B/S hear Mancs singing songs about bonfires, eating rats and killing our own fans, but still embrace Uniturd as their second (sometimes first) club.
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This is, was and always has been - horseshit. Created by paranoid Kopites who couldn’t handle watching United usurp them.
 
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lfcpower said:
On these new signings.

None of us really know fully how player recruitment works at the club, although Klopp did recently say that he doesn't have control over it. But everyone involved in recruitment will be talking to each other, so I don't think Davies or Kabak have come out of nowhere.

I imagine they're players we have been watching for different reasons, as is the case with all players we have an ongoing interest in. So we'll be interested in different players in different ways, some of them we possibly never even expect to sign but are monitoring in case they do something at their current level and current club that changes that opinion, others we will definitely be looking to bring in sooner or later.

In Davies and Kabak we seem to have two types of player, Davies likely being somebody we were just keeping half an eye on - he's English so helps with the quota, he's also got enough skill and something about him, however limited in terms of the talent we already have, to warrant that continuing interest - until a situation exactly like this one developed. Kabak being a player we were inevitably going to sign, as far as I can tell - young, lots of potential, very good, favourable stats. Not just yet, until the current situation happened.

So their signings have become necessities, but it's not panic buying. I doubt that they're blind buys, players we've just shut our eyes and landed a finger on a list for. Although the last minute nature of acquiring them might make it appear like that. And we will have a list of course, but it will be carefully curated I imagine. At the top (although that's maybe the wrong way of looking at it as there are many dependent factors) you have the likes of VVD since we're talking defenders, and at the lower end guys like Davies.

For me, paying 35 million to sign a player like Andy Carrol is the definition of panic buying, a guy who might turn out to be super good but currently isn't, so effectively you're not buying the actual player, more an idealised fantasy version of what he could be. You're not buying current ability. I don't think that we're a club that's so poorly run anymore that we will panic buy. These will be judicious signings that are based in real world figures in terms of performance and finances, and I think that's reflected in these realistic, modest, sensible deals, even though the world is in an incredibly bad financial and economic period for all businesses which is also affecting the market.
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Jimmy shared a article about a month ago that was an in depth insight into our scouting methods.


saintKlopp said:
This goes with your previous post about words getting twisted and inferences being made that aren't entirely true.
Klopp said he doesn't make the final decisions, and that he never has. It doesn't mean that he has no input, just that someone else holds the purse strings - which is pretty obvious really. He did say they all discuss things on a more or less daily basis but he doesn't decide on who we buy or when.
There isn't anything radical in this, but media love to find something to write about.
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The workings of our transfer strategy and committee have been talked about many times before (I don't mean by us, I'm talking people from within the club).

The transfer committee includes Klopp. No player will be signed without his agreement but equally a player won't be signed just because Klopp wants him, it's a team effort and everyone needs to agree.

There is no secret on how we operate. What we won't know is how the final decision is reached
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
does anyone actually care? Maybe because I’m not a scouser I’m not really affected but guys coming to play football that’s all. Clearly doesn’t hate all scousers and was as you say just a random tweet put out 8 years ago...

it’s more a stick for rival fans to beat him with than actual Liverpool fans I’d imagine.
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While people like you and me aren't bothered about this particular tweet, (there's a very clear explanation), there are others who are keen to place a meaning on it that simply isn't true. The whole thing was done in quotation marks which suggests he's quoting what either Scurry or Amis themselves have said. A lot of scousers would say the exact, same thing especially in a footballing context "Nobody likes scousers. Not even scousers like scousers". It's true. <laugh>
 
HR Pufnstuf said:
100% not. If he'd have made some crack about Hillsborough or Heysel I'd not want him near the club, but Scousers and Mancs calling each other out? Well put it this way, the B/S hear Mancs singing songs about bonfires, eating rats and killing our own fans, but still embrace Uniturd as their second (sometimes first) club.
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Didn't know Barrow was in Mancland!
 
HR Pufnstuf said:
It's all Wool to me, but I was replying to Tobes who said he was a Manc. (Davies that is, not Tobes. Tobes is an exiled Scouser in Yorkshire like me doing missionary work, as I understand).
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Barrow's one of those weird 'inbred' places but I haven't heard them being called mancs before.
 
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