Coronavirus

Do you have a link to your source for this one, mate?

 

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What I noticed in Johnson broadcasts Monday night was that he stated mid February and within minutes the BBC had decided this was mid March. No idea why they would just arbitrarily add a month, other than their general MO through all this has been to state worse case scenario.

By breakfast news they'd gone back to after February half term, which is late Feb/March.

If the vaccine is shown to be doing it's job though, they'll look to loosen thing up gradually again mid Feb so ever important 'the economy' can start to turn again. And, more importantly, we definitely have to get children back to school.

I'd personally accepted that January would be a write of before Christmas anyway, it's generally a ****e month with short days and crap weather, easier to accept and deal with restrictions on movement.

The idea that this could run til April though is not a good prospect, and I can't see the Tories buying into that.

 

I think it's Michael Gove who has been pushing the mid March narrative.



Boris obviously hasn't forgotten Gove stabbing him in the back in 2016; he's been given all the **** jobs since being readmitted to the fold.

 

ONS saying that 1 in 50 people in England now have Covid ... also that at 2 January 1 in 30 people in London have it

 

Pretty sure the reason they started talking about March was due to the fact he said that all the vulnerable would be injected by mid Feb, but there’s a 3 week lag between the jab and the immunity.

 

I'm with you mate, that's how I see it. Vaccinations will determine it but they need to really bump up the weekly rate. If they can get to about 25 million covering the most vulnerable (getting that figure from reports) by feb/march then they can begin to ease restrictions. I also can't see them keeping schools closed for 2-3 months so they will reopen first. All of this is why I was saying earlier it won't be a defined ending to lockdown but basically a mish-mash of mixed messages as we come out of it, pretty much like last year.

 

The 2 million jabs a week is highly likely to be the new 100,000 tests per day mate.

The top 4 most vulnerable groups is circa 12-13m. So they need to achieve around 2m per week to hit the mid Feb target. If they achieve that I’ll take my hat off to them, but I don’t see how it’s realistic given the starting point was 300k per week. We’ll see.

 

Which is based on an assumption (by those broadcasting) that those of us who aren't vulnerable will have to remain in lockdown while the vaccine is still taking effect on those who are marginally vulnerable, as in those lower down the vulnerable list.

I'm fairly sure there will be some resistance to this notion long before March rolls around. With good reason.

 

Not my original source. But I did Google it to see if on news media and found this:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/05/sou...te-antibody-drugs-dr-scott-gottlieb-says.html

In other words, the South African strain lessens our built up immunity to the disease and means some people could get reinfected.

Probably only mild the second time around and probably even asymptomatic... And you've probably got enough immunity if you've had it recently that you won't get it... But maybe six months, or a year (total guess, that's not scientific time frame because we don't know) after originally getting covid you could potentially catch SA strain for a second dance with the virus while you're still immune to original strain.

There's still a lot of guessing and speculation going on, but SA strain is worrying more so than others seen... And it is a real life example that the longer covid goes around the more chance it has to become a reoccurring sickness.

Other coronavirus cause colds and we've never been able to make a vaccine for them and we can catch them repeatedly. The quicker covid is stamped out the better.

 

Apparently a large amount of French healthcare workers are unimpressed with the vacine(s).Why do we think that is?
I know the French are a nation of cowardly ****tards but this?..............

 

Maybe if you mix a little red wine in with the vaccine and tell them they can inject it into each other's wives they'll take it.

 

Not really no. He stated mid Feb as an aim to start winding back the restrictions, assuming all of the first 4 vulnerable groups were jabbed. The legislation covering this lockdown lasts until 31st March. Gove has said today - ““I think it is right to say that, as we enter March, we should be able to lift some of these restrictions, but not necessarily all.”

Ultimately it’ll depend on infection rates, death rates and numbers of jabs given. If things look much better come the Feb half term, I’m sure they’ll seek to reopen schools, and go from there.

 

They're French workers. They're required to kick off and smash **** up every so often. It's normally a good thing.

 

I wasn't really talking about what the government said, I know what they said and have already said that they'll be keen to start lifting restrictions.

I was, and am, talking about mid February ( as Johnson stated) being immediately reported, by media outlets, as March and could be up to April for lockdown.

Which is lockdown, not with some restrictions being lifted.

It's patently obvious that the government will loosen restrictions before then as the vaccine(hopefully) works and infection rates drop, as I've already said.

So yes, really.

 

infection rates will , hopefully , have dropped by then due to the lockdown but the vaccine as far as we know only protects against serious results as no studies have been carried out on if it also stops the vaccinated from being infectious .

My totally uninformed guess is that it is likely they will still be infectious but at a much reduced level .

 

I don't think they know. But I think that it is feared that, yes, if you're vaccinated you could still be infectious. You could even get the disease still, but it will be asymptomatic.

My mother is a real tough lady, but I'm having a hard time convincing her she needs to get vaccinated because she saw how my sister had a bad reaction and was sick a few days. (I had no reaction)

She has several high risk factors so I've told her, I still can't come see her after my second dose until she's been vaccinated too, because I don't want to make her sick.

 

you can definitely catch coronavirus post vaccination .

 

The French don’t trust their government, have an aversion to being told what to do, and seem to have quite an appetite for conspiracy theories.

The cheese eating surrender monkeys are actually a lot like the yanks in many ways. Even gave the USA their most famous monument.