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petersaxton said:
I see that you didnt challenge my notion that a supranational organisation paying grants to businesses to move these businesses to a different country isn't capitalism as you claimed. Does that mean you accept I am right about that? If not, can you explain why I am wrong?
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The 'capitalist' side is businesses moving their sites to locations with cheaper labour/grants/tax breaks. Happens all the time. The EU isn't conspiring vs the UK ffs <laugh>

Do you think only businesses located in the UK move to different countries with the help of EU grants? Do you think the EU randomly contact businesses, or do you think the businesses contact the EU?

The grants are there because the whole aim of the EU is to standardise the cost of living over the continent, which would gradually remove the need for people to travel. This is by dragging the poorer countries up, rather than knocking the quality of life of richer countries. Check our GDP since joining.
 
petersaxton said:
"I thought you didn't want EU peeps to come over here? Make your mind up ffs."
You got that wrong then. I've never said that. I do think we should control our own borders and decide who we want to enter the country.

"1. We give the EU money to be part of the club"
We dont want to be part of the club especially if it involves giving the EU money so they can give the money to businesses to close down in the UK and move the factory to these other countries.

"2. We make more money as a country being part of that club"
No we don't. This "club" puts up protectionist barriers to protect inefficient French farmers and increase the price of imports from the rest of the world.

"do you think the economy will do well peter?"
Obviously Covid is gong to affect the economy but in the medium term I think the economy will do better.
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So you're going to blame Covid for the economy tanking due to Brexit and BoJo's crew of incompetent twats?

As I said earlier, check the state of the UK economy before and after we joined the EU. Check what happened when you lot decided to vote out. Being in the EU makes us richer and reduces the cost of living.
 
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Toby said:
So you're going to blame Covid for the economy tanking due to Brexit and BoJo's crew of incompetent twats?

As I said earlier, check the state of the UK economy before and after we joined the EU. Check what happened when you lot decided to vote out. Being in the EU makes us richer and reduces the cost of living.
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No, I'm going to blame Covid for the effects of Covid.
 
“He suffers more than necessary, who suffers before it is necessary.”
― Seneca
 
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Toby said:
The 'capitalist' side is businesses moving their sites to locations with cheaper labour/grants/tax breaks. Happens all the time. The EU isn't conspiring vs the UK ffs <laugh>

Do you think only businesses located in the UK move to different countries with the help of EU grants? Do you think the EU randomly contact businesses, or do you think the businesses contact the EU?

The grants are there because the whole aim of the EU is to standardise the cost of living over the continent, which would gradually remove the need for people to travel. This is by dragging the poorer countries up, rather than knocking the quality of life of richer countries. Check our GDP since joining.
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Just because something happens all the time doesnt mean it's capitalism.
Cost of living? Where does that come into it? Do you think people move to the UK from eastern Europe because of the cost of living?
So you think that paying grants which encourage businesses to move from the UK to eastern Europe doesn't affect the quality of life in the UK?
 
Toby said:
The 'capitalist' side is businesses moving their sites to locations with cheaper labour/grants/tax breaks. Happens all the time. The EU isn't conspiring vs the UK ffs <laugh>

Do you think only businesses located in the UK move to different countries with the help of EU grants? Do you think the EU randomly contact businesses, or do you think the businesses contact the EU?

The grants are there because the whole aim of the EU is to standardise the cost of living over the continent, which would gradually remove the need for people to travel. This is by dragging the poorer countries up, rather than knocking the quality of life of richer countries. Check our GDP since joining.
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That's not capitalism.

Capitalism - an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
 
petersaxton said:
That's not capitalism.

Capitalism - an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
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And would they not make more profit from moving to cheaper locations + grant money?
 
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