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  1. Blue and White

    Blue and White Well-Known Member

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    Gone by the morning?
     
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  2. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Thats alright. I'll get over it in time I'm sure
     
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  3. BrunelGunner

    BrunelGunner Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    In an ideal world, but it won’t happen.

    However, he might be gone before New Year.

    Southampton, Everton and Chelsea. I don’t see us getting a single point, let alone a win.

    If he somehow keeps his job after that, we have much more severe problems to concern ourselves with.
     
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  4. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Everywhere else players are glad to have their fans back.

    At Arsenal:

     
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  5. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Thats Wayne Rooney bro.

    Got an England shirt on:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  6. Alfie Conn

    Alfie Conn Well-Known Member

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  7. "Thanks for that Brian"

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    So, who's next?

    It's a ****ing shambles over there right now. There's a revolving door of executives above the coaching staff, coming in and leaving shortly after, having made things much worse and wasted a **** load of money and removed a lot of employees who know a great deal about the club.

    Whoever's next, has to be a very strong character. If they're not, they'll go the same way as Arteta and Emery, just as fast. Even if they are, it's a massive task to form something cohesive out of a situation where nothing's fit for purpose throughout the whole club.
     
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  8. KingHotspur

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    Allegri is the obvious one I think

    Poch wouldn’t take it, would he?
     
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  9. Diego

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    You may not have noticed mate but nobody want's Poch <laugh>
     
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  10. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    No big jobs have really come up since the summer

    Dortmund sacked their manager didn’t they. He would be a good fit for them
     
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  11. Diego

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    Yep, second best team in a two team league, he could keep them up there <ok>
     
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  12. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    2 team league?
     
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  13. Diego

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    Mostly :bandit:
     
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  14. KingHotspur

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    Don’t forget Leipzig
     
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  15. Diego

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    Yeah, league leaders for now but will it last :grin:
     
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  16. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Can see them winning it soon.

    The redbull franchise teams have really come on the last few years, we seem to have a good relationship with them as we've singed a players from thier teams, Naby Anderton & Minamino.

    Thing is though they are basically doing a city/chavski thing in thier respective leagues.. The more well they do the more of these "franchises" will form and that can't be a good thing. I mean there's already a conflict of interest with owning more than one team, what happens if salzburg and leipzig meet in a CL Final in a few years?

    Whats to stop the franchises suits favouring one over the other, maybe because one has more potential for selling merchandise or being in a better position to achieve sustained success and therefore earning the franchise more £££ than the other team would. And worst case scenario is maybe even the franchise leaning on one of them to take a dive so to speak for the reasons above.

    And don't the cousins of the city owners own another European team?
     
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  17. BrunelGunner

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    Arteta's in a very difficult position. He knows a lot of these players aren't at the required level, he's alluded to this in several press conferences, but at the same time, he can't get rid of all of them in one go. Even if we had £300m to spend, they still would be very hard to shift because of their CL-level wages. So he has to try and get a tune out of them. The problem has been, he's alienated a lot of our most popular players in the dressing room which has had a knock-on effect all the others. He underestimated the power some of these players yield over everyone else. He's disintegrated a lot of the brotherhoods/bonds that developed on the training ground, and I think it's clear that they're losing belief in how he's dealt with it all. You have to manage these situations very carefully so as not to upset the morale in the camp.

    Ozil, Sokratis and Luiz are popular figures. All have been banished to the sidelines.
    Guendouzi was well-liked with the French counterparts, but he's been exiled.
    Saliba, a player we spent £27m on, has come out and said he's ready to play, yet he's being told to go on loan again (or maybe even sold).
    Pepe was contributing goals and assists (prior to the red card at Leeds), but he starts Willian every week, who has been a disaster of a signing.
    Willock, Maitland-Niles, Balogun, Smith-Rowe have all been performing well in the Europa. Most of them barely get a spot on the bench. Yet we're seeing Holding, Xhaka, Lacazette, Willian and Bellerin start every league game, when they've been absolutely rubbish. And he talks about 'non-negotiables'.

    This is our worst points tally since 1959. We can't score. Can't create. Can't defend. Have no discernible style of play. 7 red cards in less than a year of being at the club is shocking. But you have to ask yourself why it keeps happening - the reason is because the players aren't happy, so their frustration boils over easily.

    A change of manager won't be the silver bullet to transform our fortunes in one go. We have critical problems throughout every level of the club - no-one is oblivious to that. We are faced with a dilemma where the longer Arteta stays, the worse things will get. If he's lost the dressing room, his position becomes untenable.

    He clearly has potential to be a good head coach/manager. Look no further than the FA Cup win as evidence. However, we need a thorough, deep cleansing and he's never had to deal with a situation like this before. Someone with experience of getting out of these situations would have been more appropriate.
     
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  18. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy Forum Moderator

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    Music to my ears
     
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  19. cini65

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    I prefer: 4. Arteta has won more trophies at Arsenal than Mourinho at Spurs... <whistle>

    Trust the process. Sort of. Actually. You know what, maybe don't. WENGER OUT! <wah>
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    It's that time of the week where I ask if anyone's mentioned that DT clearly has anger issues?
     
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