Off Topic The Politics Thread

Feels like a long time ago that Parliament rejected a whole range of Brexit options for not being Brexity enough.

 

And, in fairness, a whole bunch of MPs didn't vote for a middle way (customs union) because it wasn't remain enough. Bet they regret that now, I certainly do!

 

It's only the extremist loons of the ERG that would be happy with No Deal, but sadly they are exactly the people that Johnson has to satisfy.

 

I know Twitter is a cesspit at the best of times but there’s plenty of support out there for “jUsT gO WtO”.

 

All I can say is don't come crying to me when you can't get your medicines, food, cheap clothing, steel, coal or other important consumables such as bananas, mangos, advocados...and I think quinoa ( but as I don't really know what that is... For all I know it might roam freely in Kent)

It was not done in my name. I didn't vote for it.

Me... I am stockpiling mainly my husband's medicine...
( And might look into getting my own herd of quinoa too)

 

Why?

 

Bananas and mangoes don't come from EU countries do they? I thought Africa, S Africa, Caribbean, S America

I'm bracing myself to live without quinoa

 

Why what? If you mean why does he have to appease the ERG, it's because any deal that he is able to strike would mean signing up to the LPF and they would see that as a 'betrayal of Brexit'. He'd be out of his job in no time, and as he views the welfare of Boris Johnson as being much more important than that of the nation, he's not likely to do it.

 

But you've already expressed the view that you'd be happy with a **** deal

I'd much rather have no deal than be a vassal state

 

Lol

 

Yep.

 

I get the impression that many remainers would like a no deal, just so that they can say "told you so".

 

As Col has said, same old arguments but you don't really believe this codswallop do you?

 

Any deal is better than No Deal.

 

Of course I do. We're the fifth/sixth largest economy in the world, and we won't be bossed about by the EU and have to obey the rules they create for eternity. A deal that suits both parties is highly desirable. If not, it's WTO. I don't believe the scare stories that we'll all die, just as I didn't believe the scare stories that we'd be bankrupt within 6 months of leaving the EU or cause WW3.

If you don't understand that, you don't understand why the majority of the voting public voted for Brexit.

 

Yes, this seems to be Starmer's Brexit line, which is why he won't win over the red wall and won't get into office at the next election

 

Only No Deal gives us the chance to re-build the empire and once again rule the waves, have long summers and snowy picturesque winters so there is that to look forward to.

 

That was a bit of a joke to lighten the mood.

But I wonder when container lorries and ships are crammed into ports with extra paper work etc....and the ports are full...whether other imported stuff will be affected.Whether there will be " unexplained" delays and shortages.

But I am seriously stockpiling my hubbies medicine which comes from Belgium. He is in danger of blindness without it..

 

Ah, ok, sorry not to see that. Deal or no deal, there's no doubt there will be teething problems early on, and they will as you say involve queues of lorries on both sides of the English Channel.

I think you're prudent to get in plenty of your husband's medicine. Stuff will be flown in but there could be delays with a no deal.

I still have the impression from what I read on Twitter by people like Katya Adler of the BBC, that both sides are doing everything they can to reach some common ground to avert no deal.

 

Reported in RT:

QUOTE A no-deal Brexit is not in the European Union’s strategic interests, Ireland’s foreign minister said on Friday, as his German counterpart claimed UK-EU talks may go beyond the deadline set for Sunday.
Ireland’s FM Simon Coveney warned that if London and Brussels fail to sign a post-Brexit trade accord, it would not strengthen Brussels’ position in any future talks.

“Anybody who thinks no deal now is in the EU’s strategic interests because in six or 12 months time, when we start talking to the UK about putting in place a new agreement, that somehow the EU’s hand will be strengthened, I don’t think that shows an understanding of a British mindset,” Coveney said in Berlin.

“I think the United Kingdom will try and make whatever the outcome is in the next few days and weeks work, whether it’s a deal or no deal,” he noted, adding that all of the focus now should be “on getting a deal done that both sides can live with and work with.” UNQUOTE

I think Coveney is referring to France that believes it can soften the UK up with a few months No Deal