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[Barchullona]

Every word true. If you are ever in Hull pay a visit to Holy Trinity and in the corner there is a memorial to the all those lost at sea sailing out of Hull over the years.
I recall another one, Christmas 1965, the St Finbar lost at sea off Newfoundland with 15 lives lost, one a 15 year old cabin boy. This was the same year we got over 40,000 for a 3rd div home game v Millwall, day after Boxing Day from memory and I don't recall even a minutes silence for those lads.

There weren't many minute's silences in those days, Unlike now. They tended to be for people connected to the club. First one I can recall was for Harold Needler.

 

[Barchullona]

I remember the triple trawler tragedy around 1968 and Hull City's quick response to the fund raising effort. We played Motherwell at Boothferry Park under the lights and raised a few bob for the lost trawlerman's fund. The game was arranged in very short time and Motherwell didn't hesitate in sending a team down to Hull.
There was no trumpets or showboating about the match, the club just did it and City fans supported it. Don't recall a lot else going on in the city except bucket collections in pubs and clubs.
Also remember the Gaul going down in 1974. I knew Johnny Haywood who was on it, and my mates elder brother, Bri Dudding who was John's mate. Both NHE lads.
When City played Man U later on that year the mystery surrounding the Gaul had kept it in the news and I remember Man U fans goading us about it.

An FC fan once told me the reason he, and a lot of FC fans dislike Leeds so much is they played them not long after the triple trawler disaster and they were singing songs about going down like your trawlers etc...Don't know if it is true or just folklore.

 

[SW3 Chelsea Tiger]

It's definitely a fact, there's a memorial service every year to mark the loss of 6,000 between 1835 and 1980.

I had no idea. I’m shocked tbh. I would have guessed a few hundred at most

 

[Noggin The Nog]

Facebook Dr. Alec Gill. He's the local historian who knows absolutely everything about the fishing industry. What he doesn't know isn't worth knowing.

 

[originalminority]

I once ended up drinking in a pit village pub, and got into conversation with the locals. I've never set foot on a trawler, and told them so, but they still saw me as a representative of a fishing community, and they had massive respect for deep sea fishermen.

It was interesting, because it was mutually respectful, as they were adamant that they would much rather go to the pit face, than face the perils the trawlermen risked at sea. I readily admitted that I would avoid either, but certainly wouldn't be comfortable underground.

As it should be really with Hull's connections to the Yorkshire coalfields. That's the Hull & Barnsley Railway, pit props inported, coal exported, even a station at Boothferry Park.

 

[City Man]

As it should be really with Hull's connections to the Yorkshire coalfields. That's the Hull & Barnsley Railway, pit props inported, coal exported, even a station at Boothferry Park.

Railway embankments and bridges from Calvert Lane to Hedon Road, to smash the NER stranglehold and develop East Hull

 

[Ernie Shackleton]

Railway embankments and bridges from Calvert Lane to Hedon Road, to smash the NER stranglehold and develop East Hull

As kids we used to play in the three tunnels between Little Weighton and Weedley Springs. The longest one was great fun. Totally pitch black except when you got to the vents where you got a spotlight of light. We then used to run through the landfill site at the end, clambering over all-sorts of toxic garbage.

No one ever stopped us.


Happy days.

 

[City Man]

As kids we used to play in the three tunnels between Little Weighton and Weedley Springs. The longest one was great fun. Totally pitch black except when you got to the vents where you got a spotlight of light. We then used to run through the landfill site at the end, clambering over all-sorts of toxic garbage.

No one ever stopped us.


Happy days.

Think they're filled with landfill now.

 

[x]

i recall seeing pictures at the time in the hull daily mail showing thick ice formed around the masts.

 

[City Man]

i recall seeing pictures at the time in the hull daily mail showing thick ice formed around the masts.

Facebook Dr. Alec Gill. He's the local historian who knows absolutely everything about the fishing industry. What he doesn't know isn't worth knowing.

Recommend 'Superstitions - Folk Magic in Hull's Fishing Community ' by Alec Gill.

Some stories in there...

 

[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

Does anyone on this site know how many trawlers steamed out of Hull in approx 1973ish. Also How many roughly where employed.

This is very much a guestimate as I don't know the figures exactly, but I would hazard a guess as follows.

Boyd Line Approx 15
Hellyers Approx 20
Marr Approx 15
Hudson's Approx 10
Hamlings approx 12
Kingston 10
Henriksens 4
Newington 6
Boston 10

That's roughly 100.

Crews on Fresh fish trawlers were around 21 & 30+ of Freezers, so I would guess 2500/3000 fishermen.

Of cause a lot of shore based workers as well as supply and repair companies indirectly reliant on the fishing industry.

THIS IS PURELY FROM MEMORY, SO I COULD HAVE MISSED OUR OVER/UNDER ESTIMATED THE FIGURES, BUT VERY ROUGHLY I THINK THIS WOULD NOT BE FAR OFF.

 

[Phinius T Bookbinder]

This is very much a guestimate as I don't know the figures exactly, but I would hazard a guess as follows.

Boyd Line Approx 15
Hellyers Approx 20
Marr Approx 15
Hudson's Approx 10
Hamlings approx 12
Kingston 10
Henriksens 4
Newington 6
Boston 10

That's roughly 100.

Crews on Fresh fish trawlers were around 21 & 30+ of Freezers, so I would guess 2500/3000 fishermen.

Of cause a lot of shore based workers as well as supply and repair companies indirectly reliant on the fishing industry.

THIS IS PURELY FROM MEMORY, SO I COULD HAVE MISSED OUR OVER/UNDER ESTIMATED THE FIGURES, BUT VERY ROUGHLY I THINK THIS WOULD NOT BE FAR OFF.

Thanks John. It’s good to have some kind of idea to back up the debate.

 

[onlyme]

I remember the triple trawler tragedy around 1968 and Hull City's quick response to the fund raising effort. We played Motherwell at Boothferry Park under the lights and raised a few bob for the lost trawlerman's fund. The game was arranged in very short time and Motherwell didn't hesitate in sending a team down to Hull.
There was no trumpets or showboating about the match, the club just did it and City fans supported it. Don't recall a lot else going on in the city except bucket collections in pubs and clubs.
Also remember the Gaul going down in 1974. I knew Johnny Haywood who was on it, and my mates elder brother, Bri Dudding who was John's mate. Both NHE lads.
When City played Man U later on that year the mystery surrounding the Gaul had kept it in the news and I remember Man U fans goading us about it.

i was also at the motherwell game.

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

As kids we used to play in the three tunnels between Little Weighton and Weedley Springs. The longest one was great fun. Totally pitch black except when you got to the vents where you got a spotlight of light. We then used to run through the landfill site at the end, clambering over all-sorts of toxic garbage.

No one ever stopped us.


Happy days.

Did you ever lark around 5 Arces viaduct?

 

[originallambrettaman]

Think they're filled with landfill now.

The main tunnel is filled at one end and fenced at the other, apparently it's full of bats and that prevented them from sealing both ends.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

This is very much a guestimate as I don't know the figures exactly, but I would hazard a guess as follows.

Boyd Line Approx 15
Hellyers Approx 20
Marr Approx 15
Hudson's Approx 10
Hamlings approx 12
Kingston 10
Henriksens 4
Newington 6
Boston 10

That's roughly 100.

Crews on Fresh fish trawlers were around 21 & 30+ of Freezers, so I would guess 2500/3000 fishermen.

Of cause a lot of shore based workers as well as supply and repair companies indirectly reliant on the fishing industry.

THIS IS PURELY FROM MEMORY, SO I COULD HAVE MISSED OUR OVER/UNDER ESTIMATED THE FIGURES, BUT VERY ROUGHLY I THINK THIS WOULD NOT BE FAR OFF.

Disagree

 

[Asterix]

Disagree

Hamlings circa 1973, St Britwin, St Loman St Dominic, St Giles, St Gerontius, St Jasper St Jerome, St Jason St Benedict St Keverne

That is ten ish. Now, had the op asked for the year 1974, that list would have been one less. St Keverne, the last steam trawler in Hamlings fleet was scrapped at Blyth in 1974. Powered by a triple expansion engine built by C D Holmes. (An example of which is in the lobby of the Science Museum, London)

Which part of that list do you specifically disagree with?

 

[BlackAndAmberGambler]

While we're on about vessels from Hull wasn't it sad to see the Pride of York leave KGD for the last time last night. Many a booze cruise enjoyed on both ships back in the day. Once met Gwyllim Lloyd onboard one of them just after his major illness. He had a massive cigar, a scotch and a pint on the go sat in one of the bars. Obviously I was starstruck and asked him if he was feeling better. His reply was "just having a bit of rest and relaxation mate".

 

[Ric Glasgow]

Over 6,000 lives lost sailing out of the Port of Hull.

That's a truly staggering figure.Fish doesn't come easy to our tables and I recognise that every time I eat it....I couldn't and wouldn't do their job,it's terrifying.

 

[Ernie Shackleton]

The main tunnel is filled at one end and fenced at the other, apparently it's full of bats and that prevented them from sealing both ends.

We used to throw stones at the bats.

Never hit one.


It was only when I grew up and started taking education a bit more seriously that I learnt why not.

Misspent a lot of my youth.

It was fun though.