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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. I agree,but we're only 5 points off an automatic spot. You're saying if we don't win Saturday we can forget it...I'm saying I think that's a bit premature. Of course it requires an improvement in performance,but under a new manager it's entirely possible?
     
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  2. The Redbaron

    The Redbaron Well-Known Member

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    Pleased you have said allegedly...From what I'm seeing and reading now with most, if not all of these names being mentioned for the managers/coach's job, is showing a distinct lack of ambition. The Takeover ,I would have expected, would have been an immediate show of intent to start the club moving in the right direction and up again.. I might be wrong or even be knee jerking but after yesterday positives with hiring Gus Poyet only for it to fall apart. The differing comments from local journalists in the media would indicate that these chancers are still pulling the strings and continue to spout falsehoods and disinformation to all and sundry.. There needs to be a Club statement as to where the Takeover is or when it is expected to be completed without any impact on the recruitment of the manager /coach. There are dozens of other questions that need answers and after the debacle last night, sooner rather than later.
     
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    Its an interesting discussion.
    Did they chose Poyet and look to build a structure around him or have they got a definite idea of how they want the club run and Poyet didn't agree.
    Suspect we will never fully know. But the appointment will tell us a lot.

    Anyway we are racing ahead this time last week would be happy if the takeover was announced and we haven't officially had that yet
     
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    samwise_new Well-Known Member

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    we may have hit a 2nd place for a short while at one point but sure i read we have not topped the league at any time
     
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    Which "Big Name" manager would come to Sunderland based on the fact that most of the media has seen us as a basket case club for night on a decade?

    Like it or not Sunderland arent as big a draw anymore as some of our fans would like to think we are.

    I'd be worried any "big name" would be coming here for a nice fat payday - incidentally this type of appointment is exactly why we are in League 1.

    We need someone who can come in and be part of a rebuild of the club and restoring our heavily damaged reputation. Until that happens I dont think we can entertain a "Big Name".
     
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    Guinness Guzzler Well-Known Member

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    The references from people in the game set him apart apparently. I mean, he probably gave a fake phone number and it was actually his mam pretending to be the Colchester chairman but still.
     
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    What assumptions? You based your whole argument on those two snapshots. As for Mourinho, I take it you paid no attention to his time at Madrid and the notorious trivote of three defensive midfielders.
    Yes, a big name might be able to attract players and we're in League 1 with a salary cap. So we need a manager who can actually get something more out of the players we have. There's your bigger picture. The other thing that attracts players is a competent manager who they feel they can work with.
    I can live with the fact that you don't think the Cowleys are good choice. So you should be able to cope with the fact that I do.
     
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    Well it looks like what you were expecting the Cowley’s to do with 2nd bottom Huddersfield any idea where they finished and who they beat last game?
     
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    1st game of the season in our 1st year in League One we were, for about 4 hours.
     
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  10. sproates33

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    Of course it's possible I just don't see this team, regardless of manager, putting a big run together and outdoing the likes of Peterborough, Charlton and co, Hull already look certs for one spot.

    I look at Peterboroughs team and normally they always fall away but they have match winners in Dembele and JCH, I don't see who does the business for us in the way they do, McGeady may come back in?

    Same applies for Charlton with Aneke, Bogle, Forster Caskey and co.
     
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    I also think we need to be careful assuming the new manager has to be our manager for the next 10 years. So much can happen in football, 1 good year from an up and coming manager can see them poached by the big boys easily enough.

    I like they want someone who fits the model of the club they want us to be, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with them leaving us in 2 years when we are in the championship, and us moving on to someone of a similar ilk.
     
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    Didn't we kick off the season early when we dropped down to League One. Must've been top for a couple of hours after beating Charlton. :)
     
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    Poyet and Pearson, while not big big names, fit the bill. Both have extensive league experience and success and would be a better draw for players to come. I understand we're we are and how hard it could prove to be, but if someone is going to try and tell me the best option is someone with a few years of league experience, two league clubs and the hghest they managed was the Champo for one and got sacked from, well.. not for me Clive.

    The reason why we're in League one goes much further than managers, it's becasue the entire club was run like a ****ing school tuck shop for years, and that's probably being harsh on school tuck shops.
     
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    Shame the season didn't end then <laugh>
     
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    Evil Jimmy Krankie Well-Known Member

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    The current regime said lots of things which have turned out to be utter bollocks. Why should we believe what they said about his interview, if indeed he even was interviewed.
    I think it has been said on here that the real reason we appointed him is because he was out of work and his salary would be peanuts.
     
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    I personally think they still might be trying to sort something out with Poyet. No itk or anything btw, just a hunch.
     
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    It seems Poyet is just a lower league Benitez.

    Hi refusal wasn't down to his willingness to work with a DOF, the choice of his staff or the depth of 'vision' ...

    ... no, just like Rafa, it was all about the money.

    He'd come if it was enough even if he had Bally as DOF and Taylor as coach.
     
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    interesting. this may well be a negotiating tactic then.
     
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    I will give you my spare one.
     
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