Handbags are offensive?

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Gone For A Walk said:
Seriously point this.
How the **** is anyone supposed to know anymore what should or shouldn't be said?! It's not like it's obvious, easy, logical. It's just utter madness.
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As the saying goes, you can't give offence, you can only take it.

And as Stephen Fry said,

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
 
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DMD said:
As the saying goes, you can't give offence, you can only take it.

And as Stephen Fry said,

“It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so ****ing what."
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Exactly.
And people like Douglas Murray (Madness of Crowds) are thankfully fighting back.
But still it isn't stopping organisations and authorities reacting. If only they would just say 'Well, so ****ing what". I'm certain the vast majority of the British public would applaud them and say "about ****ing time".
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
Exactly.
And people like Douglas Murray (Madness of Crowds) are thankfully fighting back.
But still it isn't stopping organisations and authorities reacting. If only they would just say 'Well, so ****ing what". I'm certain the vast majority of the British public would applaud them and say "about ****ing time".
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If ever it looks like someone is going to claim offence, I try to squeeze in a claim that something they said has offended me before they get chance. They get quite indignant at having the moral high ground tugged away.

I have added. "if I gave your opinion any value, I would be offended by that".

It's like the handbag issue, surely they're applying an unacceptable (by their logic) stereotype in order to be offended?
 
DMD said:
I'll move this if someone points me at a more appropriate existing thread, but ffs, these people really need to give their head a shake.

Anyway, in this non-gender world, aren't the BBC the ones being sexist by assuming handbags are only associated with one type of person?

BBC football pundit suspended for referring to players' scuffle as 'handbags'
BBC pundit Steve “Tommo” Thompson described an incident in the recent clash between Swindon Town and Lincoln City as "handbags", landing himself in hot water with the broadcasting giants.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/bbc-football-pundit-steve-thompson-23082063
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'Tommo' has went about it in the wrong way!! If he'd have inserted the word Louis Vuitton he'd have been fine:emoticon-0100-smile
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look_back_in_amber said:
Mate I hate to tell you, but the way I read the first line of your post fills me with dread. I fear you’ve gone full native!
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:emoticon-0159-musicturning jockanese, I think he's turning jockanese, I really think so...:emoticon-0159-music

Hang on...there's even more proof.

No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women
No fun, no sin, no you, no wonder it's dark
Everyone around me is a total stranger
Everyone avoids me like a psyched Lone Ranger
Everyone...
 
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DMD said:
:emoticon-0159-musicturning jockanese, I think he's turning jockanese, I really think so...:emoticon-0159-music

Hang on...there's even more proof.

No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women
No fun, no sin, no you, no wonder it's dark
Everyone around me is a total stranger
Everyone avoids me like a psyched Lone Ranger
Everyone...
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'Jockanese':emoticon-0102-bigsmIf Sturgeon sees this she'll demand 'indyref 2' ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh!!
 
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Dunno about offensive but they ****ing hurt when they hit you with them
By women
Ive never been hit with one by a footballer
 
Howdentiger2 said:
Surly this had to stop someday. It's getting to the point where you can't speak or worse still having an opinion for fear of losing your job.
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Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequence. You’re well within your rights to say whatever you like or have whatever opinion you like. But like anything, there are consequences for actions.

Twas ever thus.
 
Steven Toast said:
Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequence. You’re well within your rights to say whatever you like or have whatever opinion you like. But like anything, there are consequences for actions.

Twas ever thus.
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So you feel being sacked is a justified consequence of saying 'handbags'?
 
Steven Toast said:
I didn’t say the consequences were always fair, or that I agreed. Just that there are always consequences.
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Water being wet is hardly news, but what you've put adds very little to the topic.

The better questions, and the ones that are being discussed are, is it unacceptable to say 'handbags', is being sacked an appropriate consequence, who decides that and how, and shouldn't they let us know?
 
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