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In another blow to the anti-vaxers/5G/Bill Gates crew. AstraZeneca, the pharma corp working with Oxford Uni on their vaccine have said that they well sell their vaccine to countries in the developing world at cost price and not for profit <ok>
nah that will set them off on the "they are just ensuring everyone has the nano bots" route
 
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Saw an interview with one of the lead scientists at Oxford Uni who worked on their Vaccine. When asked about the speed at which the vaccine was produced, she explained that usually, the process takes so long because each stage has to go through a funding criteria which attracts reams of red tape and slows the whole process down. She then went on to explain that because Govt had thrown tons of cash at them to develop a vaccine, they could bypass that entire process and just get on with the science.

The actual testing, efficacy and safety tests have taken exactly the same amount of time as another vaccine that might have taken 10 years to get to the market.

Also medical trials usually take forever to recruit volunteers for, those who jumped at the chance to take a vaccine trial should be commended.
 
lol ****ing dickhead.


Love the comment below :


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I feel weirdly sorry for her! This is what happens when you spend too long in an online world watching brainrot videos insisting you can proclaim yourself a free man of the land... without realising that eventually the real world is going to hit you with a court summons.



<rofl>

These are my general thoughts when reading Aberdude’s comments on here.
 
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The vaccine wouldn't get lashed out to a significant percentage of the world's population if it wasn't safe. Imagine the ****ing law suits <ok>

Not sure that I totally agree with this comment. Yes, there is a huge amount of trust and people are desperate to get back to normal. I will also have the vaccine when it is offered me, because of the benefits it will bring, but I certainly don't assume the drug will be safe without doubt.

There is an element of risk, we have to weigh that risk up with our personal circumstances and any benefit the vaccine will bring. As for law suits you only have to look at Primodos, to see it can take a lifetime to sue or at the very least get the truth.

I will take the injection because of my age, if I was 30+ years younger, I may consider the need with more thought. Afterall, the younger you are, the longer you could wait to see how things pan out.
 
Not sure that I totally agree with this comment. Yes, there is a huge amount of trust and people are desperate to get back to normal. I will also have the vaccine when it is offered me, because of the benefits it will bring, but I certainly don't assume the drug will be safe without doubt.

There is an element of risk, we have to weigh that risk up with our personal circumstances and any benefit the vaccine will bring. As for law suits you only have to look at Primodos, to see it can take a lifetime to sue or at the very least get the truth.

I will take the injection because of my age, if I was 30+ years younger, I may consider the need with more thought. Afterall, the younger you are, the longer you could wait to see how things pan out.
Totally agree with this.....If you're still alive in a couple of years time and you only have one head,.
i'll have it.<laugh>.......The other thing is there are some very good non vacine treatments on the way.
 
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Totally agree with this.....If you're still alive in a couple of years time and you only have one head,.
i'll have it.<laugh>.......The other thing is there are some very good non vacine treatments on the way.

Sounds sensible that mate <laugh>
 
i don't plan on taking it initially. Think i will be giving it a bit of time to see how it affects people. Probably will have to take it earlier than later though as i do plan on travelling if the borders are opened up
 
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Ten years' vaccine work achieved in about 10 months. Yet no corners cut in designing, testing and manufacturing.

They are two statements that sound like a contradiction, and have led some to ask how we can be sure the Oxford vaccine - which has published its first results showing it is highly effective at stopping Covid-19 - is safe when it has been made so fast.

So, this is the real story of how the Oxford vaccine happened so quickly.

It is one that relies on good fortune as well as scientific brilliance; has origins in both a deadly Ebola outbreak and a chimpanzee's runny nose; and sees the researchers go from having no money in the bank to chartering private planes.

The work started years ago

The biggest misconception is the work on the vaccine started when the pandemic began.

The world's biggest Ebola outbreak in 2014-2016 was a catastrophe. The response was too slow and 11,000 people died.

"The world should have done better," Prof Sarah Gilbert, the architect of the Oxford vaccine, told me.

In the recriminations that followed, a plan emerged for how to tackle the next big one. At the end of a list of known threats was "Disease X" - the sinister name of a new, unknown infection that would take the world by surprise.

The Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford - named after the scientist that performed the first vaccination in 1796, and now home to some of the world's leading experts - designed a strategy for defeating an unknown enemy.

"We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time," Prof Gilbert said.

"We hadn't got the plan finished, but we did do pretty well."


The critical piece of technology


The central piece of their plan was a revolutionary style of vaccine known as "plug and play". It has two highly desirable traits for facing the unknown - it is both fast and flexible.

Conventional vaccines - including the whole of the childhood immunisation programme - use a killed or weakened form of the original infection, or inject fragments of it into the body. But these are slow to develop.

Instead the Oxford researchers constructed ChAdOx1 - or Chimpanzee Adenovirus Oxford One.

Scientists took a common cold virus that infected chimpanzees and engineered it to become the building block of a vaccine against almost anything.

Before Covid, 330 people had been given ChAdOx1 based-vaccines for diseases ranging from flu to Zika virus, and prostate cancer to the tropical disease chikungunya.

The virus from chimps is genetically modified so it cannot cause an infection in people. It can then be modified again to contain the genetic blueprints for whatever you want to train the immune system to attack. This target is known is an antigen.

ChAdOx1 is in essence a sophisticated, microscopic postman. All the scientists have to do is change the package.

"We drop it in and off we go," said Prof Gilbert.


Oxford vaccine: How did they make it so quickly? - BBC News

 
Ten years' vaccine work achieved in about 10 months. Yet no corners cut in designing, testing and manufacturing.

They are two statements that sound like a contradiction, and have led some to ask how we can be sure the Oxford vaccine - which has published its first results showing it is highly effective at stopping Covid-19 - is safe when it has been made so fast.

So, this is the real story of how the Oxford vaccine happened so quickly.

It is one that relies on good fortune as well as scientific brilliance; has origins in both a deadly Ebola outbreak and a chimpanzee's runny nose; and sees the researchers go from having no money in the bank to chartering private planes.

The work started years ago

The biggest misconception is the work on the vaccine started when the pandemic began.

The world's biggest Ebola outbreak in 2014-2016 was a catastrophe. The response was too slow and 11,000 people died.

"The world should have done better," Prof Sarah Gilbert, the architect of the Oxford vaccine, told me.

In the recriminations that followed, a plan emerged for how to tackle the next big one. At the end of a list of known threats was "Disease X" - the sinister name of a new, unknown infection that would take the world by surprise.

The Jenner Institute at the University of Oxford - named after the scientist that performed the first vaccination in 1796, and now home to some of the world's leading experts - designed a strategy for defeating an unknown enemy.

"We were planning how can we go really quickly to have a vaccine in someone in the shortest possible time," Prof Gilbert said.

"We hadn't got the plan finished, but we did do pretty well."


The critical piece of technology


The central piece of their plan was a revolutionary style of vaccine known as "plug and play". It has two highly desirable traits for facing the unknown - it is both fast and flexible.

Conventional vaccines - including the whole of the childhood immunisation programme - use a killed or weakened form of the original infection, or inject fragments of it into the body. But these are slow to develop.

Instead the Oxford researchers constructed ChAdOx1 - or Chimpanzee Adenovirus Oxford One.

Scientists took a common cold virus that infected chimpanzees and engineered it to become the building block of a vaccine against almost anything.

Before Covid, 330 people had been given ChAdOx1 based-vaccines for diseases ranging from flu to Zika virus, and prostate cancer to the tropical disease chikungunya.

The virus from chimps is genetically modified so it cannot cause an infection in people. It can then be modified again to contain the genetic blueprints for whatever you want to train the immune system to attack. This target is known is an antigen.

ChAdOx1 is in essence a sophisticated, microscopic postman. All the scientists have to do is change the package.

"We drop it in and off we go," said Prof Gilbert.


Oxford vaccine: How did they make it so quickly? - BBC News
Read something similar to that a couple of days ago.

Apparently it only took them a couple of weeks to come up with the vaccine, with the rest of the time being used for clinical trials etc. Quite amazing and astonishing work.
 
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Read something similar to that a couple of days ago.

Apparently it only took them a couple of weeks to come up with the vaccine, with the rest of the time being used for clinical trials etc. Quite amazing and astonishing work.
I was listening to a woman who's been working on it at Oxford Uni on Radio 4.
She said luckily it is a Coronavirus .
Said that most of the virus samples are already stored and they just need a genetic code ( which was sent from China early on ) to get on with it .
She made it sound easy :emoticon-0141-whew:
 
I was listening to a woman who's been working on it at Oxford Uni on Radio 4.
She said luckily it is a Coronavirus .
Said that most of the virus samples are already stored and they just need a genetic code ( which was sent from China early on ) to get on with it .
She made it sound easy :emoticon-0141-whew:

I'm whipping up a batch of Ebola vaccine after I make some Banana muffins this afternoon.
 
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