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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. ROKER PARK

    ROKER PARK Well-Known Member

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    Need pulling!
     
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    Snaggey Well-Known Member

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    Pick a poster on here, at random, out of a hat. I would say its a fair bet that they would do no worse what PP is doing.
    Now imagine we got someone in who actually knew what they were doing!!
    Poyet would be a MASSIVE improvement on what we have now.
     
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    He’s got Long COVID.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

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    Exactly mate.

    It's obvious the current team have little fear of Parkinson and that's vital imo.

    Klopp comes across as a likeable loon but you just know he can be brutal when dealing with players.

    Sunderland has a legacy of being a soft touch for players which is why di Canio was so appalled. So we have to blow that lethargy out of the club forever before we even think about tactics, signings and style of play.

    Liverpool were sleepwalking, just like us, when Bill Shankley walked through the door ...

    ... he was every bit as manic and intense as Di Canio but was allowed to blow the club apart.

    There are lessons there we need to learn.
     
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  5. Southern A

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    Pearson or Allardyce would be my first choice definitely. I just can't see Allardyce happening though.

    Pearson with Phillips as his assistant (bearing in mind they worked together) would be just phenomenal.

    I really don't like the idea of Phillips on his own - he's too much of a nice guy. But that's why I think he'd make an excellent good cop / bad cop with Pearson.

    A combo of Roy Keane and John O'Shea would do similar.
     
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  6. Blond Bombshell

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    This, here's hoping they get a new manager who can turn this ship around this season.. people keep saying one or two quality signings should be enough, let's wait and see and KTF.
     
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  7. dyd13

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    To be fair I can't stand Pearson but I thought he should of got the job last time instead of Parkinson and for the same reasons you allude to. A strong positive personality is needed. To me that is big Sam all day long, but that won't happen in my opinion.
     
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  8. Southern A

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    Absolutely. This squad isn't performing anywhere near good enough but I don't think any of them are playing at the tops of their game.

    This division seems quite weak this year, definitely the weakest it's been in our time. The right manager would probably not even need any new signings. Obviously 2 or 3 players in the new manager's mold to fit any gaps they see would be nice though.
     
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  9. dyd13

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    Keane with O'Shea has a good ring to it, good shout.
     
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    It's because you can't stand him that would make him so good, I think. **

    ** not you personally.
     
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  11. Zidane

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    Poyet has been my realistic number one choice with Cook being more realistic.

    But having discussed the ins and out in our whatapp the question was asked of how relevant his brand of football is today against high energy high press.

    Anyway, I'm no tactician. As far as I'm concerned I've said for literally years I just want us to do a Swansea and stick with a type of football over several season and managers. Its absolutely the only way to be efficient in football with long term planning.
     
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    If there is a director of football to oversee the development of the club I think he should choose they need to be able to work together
    I got the feeling a dof didn't go down well with a lot of our previous managers especially poyet who undermined congestion every chance he got.
     
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  13. Southern A

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    This is one of the reasons I, upon reflection, reluctantly, don't think Parky should be sacked yet.

    The single most important person who needs to sign off on the replacement / choose the manager is the Sporting Director. So until that person is identified, no new manager should be.

    You could sack Parkinson and put a caretaker in charge, but that just feels pointless. The club would be in an even worse state of limbo than it is now.
     
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    totally agree, maybe one or two tweaks but on the whole they should be performing much netter than they are...That! , is down to the manager.
     
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    I think we have the perfect person for the sporting director already involved, Dave Jones. If he would leave sky is a different matter but he would be my choice.
     
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    Why is the term 'sporting' being used, are we diversifying from footy?
     
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    Sounds to me like it's the other way round. Congerton undermining Poyet. For example, Poyet wanted Ki to sign permanently, was quoted 10m, the powers that be thought it was too much money, and went out and bought Rodwell for the same money.
    Poyet thought Rodwell cost half that but was told by Chris Kamara on his Sunday morning show on Sky that we'd payed 10m. If that's not undermining your manager I don't know what is!
     
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    If you listen to his interviews he told the club to go and buy Ki, Borini and Alonso. They’d been here on loan, loved the area were happy to sign and already knew his style of play. Congerton got him Van Aanholt, and Roswell. The club had refused to pay the money for Ki the went out and spent more on Roswell. Things like this is why his time here turned out the way they did
     
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  19. Billy Batts

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    Spot on.
     
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    Ki was technically gifted without doubt but anyone who thinks his displays warranted a contract at our great club never watched his level of commitment during games. Disinterested and half-hearted most times, it was obvious he didn't want to be here.
     
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