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milkyboy said:
As for pundits... I’m not a fan of women footballers as pundits on the men’s game largely because I don’t think their experience is very relevant. No problem with them as commentators/reporters if they’re good enough. Issue is some of them clearly aren’t and are there to make the numbers up.

So Alex Scott for example? Not for me.

As for male pundits Colour of skin should be irrelevant and as for foreign pundits - I’m fine with them... their English is usually better than the English pundits, half of whom can’t string a sentence together and what they do say is utterly banal. I’m fine with JFH... he’s still Leeds!
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I agree, women pundits dont do it for me either, but there are some good female commentators.
I also agree the colour of skin should be irrelevant, the only criteria is if you can do the job, are interesting, and know what you are talking about .
I like meritocracy
Btw, Alex Scott has got Sue Barkers job, just sayin'
 
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Jammy 07 said:
The fact that posters are aware of the skin colour of TV presenters seems to indicate why more needs to be done.

Just watch the game and enjoy the punditry or not and hopefully over time you'll see an ex footballer talking about his sport and not a black man.

Dublin sounds good <ok>
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You wouldn't like it Jammy..:grin:
 
OLOF said:
I agree, women pundits dont do it for me either, but there are some good female commentators.
I also agree the colour of skin should be irrelevant, the only criteria is if you can do the job, are interesting, and know what you are talking about .
I like meritocracy
Btw, Alex Scott has got Sue Barkers job, just sayin'
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I can't stand that clare horsey balding is she still around?. That woman who does the football commentary is appalling her voice is not suited. Seems to me they are just the cheaper option. Hazel irvine was good at the open though. But women on the panels at rugby and football do not belong in the mens game and vice versa.
 
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Jammy 07 said:
Maybe it's more a case of Sky realising that given the amount of black professional footballers their predominantly white male cast of presenters & pundits were not a true representation of the sport ?

They've had other biases with too may ex Liverpool players on our screens which hopefully will be addressed as well.

Thought Patrice Evra has been brilliant the last few weeks as he speaks from the heart and it makes great TV. Let's judge the pundits on performance, the same as the players and it shouldn't be a job for life like Jamie Redknapp and others seem to have.
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Not interested in representation, just want the best, irrespective of colour, sex, religion or sexual inclination. I find sacking a white man just to replace him with a Black man, just as disgusting as doing it the other way around. To give anyone job priority because of colour, not on ability is bull ****.
 
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OLOF said:
When you get the colour of someones skin repeatedly mentioned you cant help but notice, the majority of black people especially on tv and sky in particular have got those jobs because of their skin colour and i find that sad for them and even sadder for the people who have lost their jobs so some white **** in the top jobs can look so virtuous, let them stand down and give those poor folks their jobs
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It's the same on the ads. Even the Oscars are making up new awards to keep the "ethnic minority happy":(
 
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wakeycentraloneleeds said:
I can't stand that clare horsey balding is she still around?. That woman who does the football commentary is appalling her voice is not suited. Seems to me they are just the cheaper option. Hazel irvine was good at the open though. But women on the panels at rugby and football do not belong in the mens game and vice versa.
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She should be still around, ticks all the right boxes for the bbc..
Licks a few as well
 
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I remember a presenter asking Jamie Redknapp about the effect a certain players attitude (think it was Pogba/Mourinho) has on the dressing room. Jamie was mid sentence when Alex Scott interrupted him and tried to answer the question herself. What does she know about the chemistry in a Male dressing room. I wouldn't dare answer that on a girls dressing room because guess what? I wouldn't know because I have never been in an all girl changing room. Even if I had wandered in, the entire atmosphere would have changed.

That's my issue. I have no problem with commentators or even analysis but they have to be clever enough to shut up when they know nothing about it.

As for pundits. Glenn Hoddle is a joy to listen to. He has knowledge and experience in many many aspects of the game and can put those points across to a wide range of fans so they understand it. Hate to say it but Gary Neville is also very good as is Roy Keane. Ian Wright doesn't add much tactical knowledge to it but his enthusiasm is funny. Dion Dublin can be very good.

Other than that we are treated to the usual grey cliches and they all blend in to one monotone bland viewpoint. Micah Richard's is making a name for himself because he has an infectious laugh but if you listen to him it's just cliche after cliche. Jamie Redknapp is the same.

Pundits shouldn't be afraid of upsetting a few people. It should be encouraged.
 
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