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If Shaqiri leaves, Harry Wilson is more likely to stay at Liverpool, with Burnley yet to improve their initial offer.
@JamesPearceLFC

 

Id rather keep shaq

 

Both will go imo

 

Brewster off, confirmed
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54385078

 

so it’s £72m spend, £37m sales. £35m net spend so far this summer, excluding loan fees. I expect this to be zero by the end of the week.

 

great deal.

good lad but i just don't see the athlete in there klopp wants. 3 year buy back (uniley) and 15% of sell on which is going to be lucrative perhaps.

for Sheff Utd its exactly the kind of player they need badly so a very good deal form their perspective 17th or better is all they need but this really would help there, pay back is a no brainer no matter what the terms.

 

you might want to revise this into spend this year and commitments over next 3 years.

the net spend is already likely to be zero in the immediate term.

now agents fees are another matter

 

still trying to work out why we end up paying out so much in agent fees

 

We're only paying approx £9m this year for Thiago and Jota with the rest accounted for in the coming years, whereas the full sales value can be booked in our accounts this year. (Hoever and Brewster = approx £30m)

 

It makes no odds really. Acquisitions of assets are always offset against a number of years anyway. So even if we’ve delayed payment on £40m, we would still only account for a % of that per annum anyway. Agent fees are operating costs that will appear in this years numbers regardless....unless we’ve cut a deal with them too.

 

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Liverpool buy-back clause 'revealed'
Reports in the national press say Sheffield United have been open to including a clause allowing Liverpool to buy Brewster back for a set fee of £40million in order to boost their chances of completing a deal.
That saw them move ahead of Crystal Palace and other rivals in the race to sign him.

 

The cash payments and payment schedules aren’t what hits the accounts, people never seem to quite grasp this.

For example, you sign a player for £20m on a 3 year deal and a player for £40m on a 4 year deal, the annual cost to the accounts are their wages plus amortisation, which is their purchase cost divided by their contract length.
So in this example just shy of £17m in the current financial year.

Profit on sales is what they are sold for minus what they currently stand on the balance sheet at, so a homegrown sold for £20m owes nothing and so the profit in the financial year is £20m.

Obvs this excludes any agents & signing on fees that are accounted for in the year they are paid.

 

FFS

although put more elegantly I have to admit

 

There is a reason we do our deals very fast without much of a fuss. We are defintely serial tapping up merchants. So it is like a bribe for them to shut the **** up and deliver their clients to us

 

Simple it’s largely a tax dodge.

Most top players pay their agents a percentage of their total income. So it’s more tax efficient for their client if they take a slightly lower wage and get the agents slice paid by the signing club, as otherwise the player is paying the agent from his post tax income.

 

because we honestly declare it and don't have a separate bank about giving out free holidays where they get a diamond encrusted watch on arrival in their luxury hotel room.

I would love to know how much Mendes made off us on the Jota deal and also how much he made off the deals wolves have done.

An example is that he acts as the club's agent, for say a club wants to sell a player. He then turned up at wolves and says for a fee i can get you this player. then he gets paid twice PLUS gets paid a slice of player takings.

its on record that port paid mendes 6.2mil out of the wolves fee for fabio silva.

now whats not on record is what slide he got out of wolves and then what the slice of player signing on fee was.

So out of a "35 million" transfer there will be all sorts of other payments to player etc that brings this deal up to closer 45-50mil overall of which mendes might clear 10mil.

now look at 45mil for Jota. who knows how much has gone to the agent.

 

if it is because our players are taking a smaller wedge i dread to think how much our wage bill would be
oh and why do we do this more than others since we are regularly top of agent fees .

 

we have very high agent fees even in seasons with very few transfers .

 

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