Match Day Thread West Ham v Hull City

[Ernie Shackleton]

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You’d hope they wouldn’t be too down.
Whether we like it or not a PL team comfortably beating a League 1 team in a cup game when the L1 team didn’t play their full first team is hardly newsworthy.
On the decision to play to be fair to GM I’m struggling to see why he should have had to make a decision. I thought the Govt guidance would have meant West Ham had to have their players isolating for at least a few days until they’d all tested positive so he shouldn’t have even been put in that position. It says that if you have had contact in the last 2 days, and it talks about how close, if it’s physical contact etc and also says contact includes travelling near someone who has tested positive, then you need to isolate. Can’t see how other players, although maybe not all I suppose, wouldn’t have been classed as being in contact with the 3 who are positive so also should have gone home too?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...-19-infection-who-do-not-live-with-the-person

Those are the criteria that schools, offices, shops etc are having to apply every day. There are very clear and straightforward and not open to interpretation.

I agree that McCann shouldn't have had to make a decision on the hoof last night. However he is responsible as part of the management team for not having a clear policy and set of protocols drawn up for such an eventuality.


It's not like anyone in the club's management structure couldn't see that this situation might arise.

It was entirely predictable.

Indeed, it will happen again.


They've been studying at the Dido Harding School of Leadership, I guess.

 

[petersaxton]

I thought other than the penalty where he seemed weirdly tame he had a reasonable game. A lot of those West Ham goals were from defensive issues or Hammers just getting into good positions, none were real howlers for him to concede. West Ham's second team is a lot better than Leeds' so the result was hardly surprising.

Given the number of useless penalties I would prefer our goalkeeper to stand up when they take a penalty. Obviously you have to vary it when it becomes known.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

As far as the Corona virus matter, I thought Burnsey was a bit heavy on Terry.......

Agree. It was embarrassing. Both from Burnsey and from McCann.
Yes, it was relevant and important, but 10 minutes or so of the same stuff? Ask the questions, then move on ... or more to the point, be moved on by the interviewee (McCann).
McCann's handling of Burnsey's ongoing questionning & opinionating was very poor;. Can you imagine other managers taking that from Burnsey?
McCann needs (more) media training as his weakness in interviews is not helping his cause one bit (imo).

 

[petersaxton]

Presumably the three who tested positive didn’t do anything like that in training in the last couple of days though or according to Govt all the other Wham players should have immediately gone home to self isolate.
Didn’t travel there together either.
Fact...must be?

I read that the West Ham players travelled in three coaches and socially distanced in them.

 

[DMD]

Those are the criteria that schools, offices, shops etc are having to apply every day. There are very clear and straightforward and not open to interpretation.

I agree that McCann shouldn't have had to make a decision on the hoof last night. However he is responsible as part of the management team for not having a clear policy and set of protocols drawn up for such an eventuality.


It's not like anyone in the club's management structure couldn't see that this situation might arise.

It was entirely predictable.

Indeed, it will happen again.


They've been studying at the Dido Harding School of Leadership, I guess.

Even with all the controls that exist in them, the basis of the track and trace scheme is that if I go in a well run pub, and obey all the rules, if someone else that has been in is found to be positive for the virus, I have to self isolate. I'm struggling to see the difference to the players here.

 

[petersaxton]

Even with all the controls that exist in them, the basis of the track and trace scheme is that if I go in a well run pub, and obey all the rules, if someone else that has been in is found to be positive for the virus, I have to self isolate. I'm struggling to see the difference to the players here.

As I have said before, they note the time you enter but not the time you leave. Madness!
I suppose they think you may have caught if off an uncleaned table. If so they should note the table number.

 

[Tigger]

I was there

So was I.

 

[Barchullona]

They have said West Ham's game with Arsenal on Sunday will go ahead.

 

[balkan tiger]

Those are the criteria that schools, offices, shops etc are having to apply every day. There are very clear and straightforward and not open to interpretation.

I agree that McCann shouldn't have had to make a decision on the hoof last night. However he is responsible as part of the management team for not having a clear policy and set of protocols drawn up for such an eventuality.


It's not like anyone in the club's management structure couldn't see that this situation might arise.

It was entirely predictable.

Indeed, it will happen again.


They've been studying at the Dido Harding School of Leadership, I guess.

I see Did Harding is being tipped to head up the new health organisation that's going to replace public health england. Nowt like been rewarded for failure.

 

[Barchullona]

Well that shouldn't have gone ahead. Same naive management that took 6 points from 60 last season.

Cant see us playing on Saturday now. Irony is we're already a goal down when Boris is doing his social responsibility bit on the telly.

Same naive **** we've got used to but we should have called it off before kickoff.

Any prospective signings we're looking to make now know straight we're not going to protect them, so best look elsewhere.

They said this morning that West Ham's game at Arsenal will be going ahead on Sunday so why shouldn't our game go ahead this weekend?

 

[Barchullona]

I see Did Harding is being tipped to head up the new health organisation that's going to replace public health england. Nowt like been rewarded for failure.

Zoe Ball is another example of that.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Even with all the controls that exist in them, the basis of the track and trace scheme is that if I go in a well run pub, and obey all the rules, if someone else that has been in is found to be positive for the virus, I have to self isolate. I'm struggling to see the difference to the players here.

What if someone who tests positive says I was in town all day shopping, it’s a female obviously! More precisely a Meadowhall or Trafford centre

 

[Barchullona]

What if someone who tests positive says I was in town all day shopping, it’s a female obviously! More precisely a Meadowhall or Trafford centre

It could have been a miserable, hen-pecked specimen of a male who was accompanying a female as well.

 

[DMD]

What if someone who tests positive says I was in town all day shopping, it’s a female obviously! More precisely a Meadowhall or Trafford centre

Given the numbers of positive results in football, whatever system they use in football doesn't seem to be working very well, or the test isn't accurate.

 

[dennisboothstash]

Even with all the controls that exist in them, the basis of the track and trace scheme is that if I go in a well run pub, and obey all the rules, if someone else that has been in is found to be positive for the virus, I have to self isolate. I'm struggling to see the difference to the players here.

You don’t unless you have had ‘contact’ as per the stuff above. Track & trace have criteria so you’d need to be very close in public to be told to isolate

 

[petersaxton]

You don’t unless you have had ‘contact’ as per the stuff above. Track & trace have criteria so you’d need to be very close in public to be told to isolate

So being in the same pub or restaurant is just the starting point?
The details taken are then used to see who has contact with others?

 

[dennisboothstash]

So being in the same pub or restaurant is just the starting point?
The details taken are then used to see who has contact with others?

correct

 

[The B&S Fanclub]

Lets hope the descent into mid table also-rans doesn't start on Saturday. Need to kick this result into the long grass and focus on the bread and butter stuff.

 

[Trumpton Tiger.]

They have said West Ham's game with Arsenal on Sunday will go ahead.

Is it on SKY by any chance ?

 

[Barchullona]

Is it on SKY by any chance ?

Don't know. But going by some of the hysterical reactions on here it should not be played.