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Donga Darko said:
Okay, let's look at it this way: VVD - best defender in the world, but sometimes plays like he's bored with how good he his. Needs an occasional kick up the arse. JoGo: Ridiculously quick and mobile, but seems to have lost his mojo since the City mauling last season. Get's injured at least once a season. Fab: Fab, but we haven't seen him up against a Deeney or Giroud yet. And he's still the best DM in the league, imo. Matip: Reliable when he plays - and you can rely on him not playing most games.

You need four CB's to get through a full Prem and CL season, and someone to deputise in the early rounds of domestic cups. I'm all for giving Williams a run out CB in the League Cup as he's tall and aggressive in the air. But we need a fresh CB for a full season: one from the lower leagues (who are really struggling for money atm) might be an idea, as might a European loan. Don't want that Diego Carlos from sevilla though - he looks expensive and rash, imo. And don't need to throw our empty wad at Koullibaly either - tremendous as he is, £70m on a fourth CB would be a ridiculous waste of limited resources. A happy medium is what's required.

But all that said - if we can strike a good deal for Sarr as well atm, I would get him. The front three are pushing 30. They'll need replacing in the next few years, even with Mbappe and Sancho coming next year.
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Ben White has been talked about but not sure if he's just re-signed. Also Klopp keeps mentioning Koumetio the young French lad who played the preseason games. He's going to be a great player and could be used sparingly for us this season.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Ben White has been talked about but not sure if he's just re-signed. Also Klopp keeps mentioning Koumetio the young French lad who played the preseason games. He's going to be a great player and could be used sparingly for us this season.
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I think that this will be the reality tbh....the kids will get their chance. Last year I berated the decision to not strengthen...how wrong was I. As much as I want more, whatever the club do, I have absolute confidence that we will be good.
 
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Donga Darko said:
Okay, let's look at it this way: VVD - best defender in the world, but sometimes plays like he's bored with how good he his. Needs an occasional kick up the arse. JoGo: Ridiculously quick and mobile, but seems to have lost his mojo since the City mauling last season. Get's injured at least once a season. Fab: Fab, but we haven't seen him up against a Deeney or Giroud yet. And he's still the best DM in the league, imo. Matip: Reliable when he plays - and you can rely on him not playing most games.

You need four CB's to get through a full Prem and CL season, and someone to deputise in the early rounds of domestic cups. I'm all for giving Williams a run out CB in the League Cup as he's tall and aggressive in the air. But we need a fresh CB for a full season: one from the lower leagues (who are really struggling for money atm) might be an idea, as might a European loan. Don't want that Diego Carlos from sevilla though - he looks expensive and rash, imo. And don't need to throw our empty wad at Koullibaly either - tremendous as he is, £70m on a fourth CB would be a ridiculous waste of limited resources. A happy medium is what's required.

But all that said - if we can strike a good deal for Sarr as well atm, I would get him. The front three are pushing 30. They'll need replacing in the next few years, even with Mbappe and Sancho coming next year.
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Williams is a full back so won’t be playing CB anytime soon. More likely to be van de berg or koumetio although still seems a way off potential first team games.
 
On the Sancho business, according to the Mail, Uniturd are trying to get him for a knockdown £78m. Evidently Dortmund have seen their collective arse. IF true, you have to ask the question about the dividend that the Glazers are paying themselves that Astro referred to yesterday. Did you quote £65m? @astro

Well if so... wow. I'm still arsed with FSG taking back their loan money for the new stand during these times, but in fairness, we are still buying what we can. This seems insane to me though on Uniturd's part... IF true.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Williams is a full back so won’t be playing CB anytime soon. More likely to be van de berg or koumetio although still seems a way off potential first team games.
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Fab is a midfielder. So is Windy. I'm only talking about trying him out in early cup games.
 
Donga Darko said:
Fab is a midfielder. So is Windy. I'm only talking about trying him out in early cup games.
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Bit diff playing a 6 foot plus Brazilian international defensive midfielder who has also played in defence numerous times Compared to a small full back who was a winger until a year or two back. He’s get destroyed by most centre forwards.
 
SIR_KENNY_KLOPP_KING said:
I think that this will be the reality tbh....the kids will get their chance. Last year I berated the decision to not strengthen...how wrong was I. As much as I want more, whatever the club do, I have absolute confidence that we will be good.
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Also, exciting as it is to get new players, I've never liked the idea of too many at once. I realise that we're not talking about wholesale changes to the first 11, but even so I prefer steady and judicious strengthening over time.
 
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InBiscanWeTrust said:
Bit diff playing a 6 foot plus Brazilian international defensive midfielder who has also played in defence numerous times Compared to a small full back who was a winger until a year or two back. He’s get destroyed by most centre forwards.
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Williams is 6ft mate. As said, he's really good in the air.
 
Donga Darko said:
Okay, let's look at it this way: VVD - best defender in the world, but sometimes plays like he's bored with how good he his. Needs an occasional kick up the arse. JoGo: Ridiculously quick and mobile, but seems to have lost his mojo since the City mauling last season. Get's injured at least once a season. Fab: Fab, but we haven't seen him up against a Deeney or Giroud yet. And he's still the best DM in the league, imo. Matip: Reliable when he plays - and you can rely on him not playing most games.

You need four CB's to get through a full Prem and CL season, and someone to deputise in the early rounds of domestic cups. I'm all for giving Williams a run out CB in the League Cup as he's tall and aggressive in the air. But we need a fresh CB for a full season: one from the lower leagues (who are really struggling for money atm) might be an idea, as might a European loan. Don't want that Diego Carlos from sevilla though - he looks expensive and rash, imo. And don't need to throw our empty wad at Koullibaly either - tremendous as he is, £70m on a fourth CB would be a ridiculous waste of limited resources. A happy medium is what's required.

But all that said - if we can strike a good deal for Sarr as well atm, I would get him. The front three are pushing 30. They'll need replacing in the next few years, even with Mbappe and Sancho coming next year.
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Fab was easily my MotM against the chavs, but I don't want to see him there too often - he's better employed in his usual position, and I'd worry about his lack of real pace against speedy forwards. He's intelligent, and had the better of Werner, but Werner is new to the PL and experienced coaches would work out ways of getting at Fab if he was there a lot.
Imo.
Joe and Joel are too prone to injury and I think we need someone else there. I don't know about experimenting with Neco there, he still seems a trifle immature at times. I'm sure he'll be a fine player, but needs more time before being thrown in at the deep end.
Having said all that, I'm happy that Klopp knows what he's doing so if he believes we're ok I'm happy with that too.
 
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