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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Staines R's

    Staines R's Well-Known Member

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    Sadly it’s too late now for most of my ex-colleagues at British Airways. Forced out of their jobs and made to reapply for another vacancy, not knowing the conditions, pay or anything about what their new role would mean.
    And when they did find out....things like lower pay, less holiday and being forced to take unpaid leave at the companies behest. And this was to people who had worked there for 20-30 years plus. Meanwhile the outgoing chairman walks away with £3 million in his pocket.
    Thank you EU for your protection of workers rights and conditions.....and some wonder why I’m cynical.
     
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  2. Stroller

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    Forget the EU, it's the Tories you should be pointing fingers at.
     
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    I thought he was in a bit of trouble
     
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  4. kiwiqpr

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    has there been a takeover
     
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    Wonder how PMQ went today
     
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  8. Star of David Bardsley

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    Something about Starmer being on the fence something something you’re all just anti-Tory something something don’t speculate about Mark Francois something something Brexit means Brexit something.
     
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  9. finglasqpr

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    I sympathise with all the workers affected but not sure why you keep pointing the finger at the EU?

    I.A.G. is a private company with Head Office's in Madrid and London and nothing to do with the E.U.
     
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  10. Staines R's

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    The point I’m making Fin is that there are many on here and elsewhere who say the EU protects workers rights and their conditions of employment.
    I’m saying that is a load of old bollox and the EU don’t give a **** about workers rights and their conditions of employment.
     
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  11. finglasqpr

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    The E.U. in the case of British Airways/I.A.G. can not interfere in what goes on in a private company. It is up to the local governments concerned to do something if local laws/workers rights are not being respected. Your ex-colleagues should get on to the local MP's.
     
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    Believe me they have, and a big up to Huw Merriman MP who has long since fought their cause, but according to some on here and elsewhere we live in a workers utopia, all due to the fact that the EU enshrines our rights as workers and that once we leave the EU, those rights will be eroded and gone..leaving the Tory government to enslave is all.

    Im saying we never had those rights in the first place and as has been proven it seems, big business can do what the **** they want with no comeback whatsoever.
     
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    I wouldn’t go that far, but the respective records of the EU and the Tories on workers’ rights speak for themselves.
     
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    The EU does provide protections to workers' rights, which is partly why this government doesn't want to sign up to the Level Playing Field - it wants to be able undercut the EU on rights. You may well think that the protections don't go far enough, and I would agree with you, but a Tory government unfettered by the EU will erode rights even further.
     
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    Of course you wouldn’t go that far.
    However my point stands.
     
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    Well it seems in the case of British Airways, there are no protections in place whatsoever Strolls, and that a contract of employment isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. Agreed the Tories will do their utmost to take things further, however at least we can do something about them.....hopefully.
     
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    I’m not sure it does.
     
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    Of course you wouldn’t, I expect nothing else.
     
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  20. finglasqpr

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    Staines, this is the truth. Lets see where your colleagues are in a few years time. They will be even lower paid with worse conditions.

    I honestly wish them all the best. I don't like to see aviation workers getting treated the way they are at the moment, all over the world it seems. This virus is causing havoc with this and other industries. Good luck to your buddies, I hope your local MP can get a result for them.
     
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