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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by deedub93, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Mr Bungle

    Mr Bungle Active Member

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    So he won it with France, not Spurs.
     
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  2. The Changing Man

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    But which club was he contracted to play for when he won the world cup?
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You're wrong. <ok>
     
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  4. It's not the first time Pix has been wrong.
     
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  5. Mr Bungle

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    Spurs, but he didn't win it with Spurs, he won it with France.

    Trying to rack that up as a win for Spurs is like me claiming I've slept with Jennifer Lopez because I saw her in a film once <laugh>
     
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    Oh, it's PIXIE.
    That would explain the attempted "big brain" rubbish (Mr "Bungle" indeed) .
     
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  7. The Changing Man

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    It answers the original question - you seem to be a bit lost - this is the forum for Tottenham Hotspur we are not going to say anything nice about the nomads from Woolwich and we will big up the the achievements of our players because we can, you won't get anyone agreeing with you here
     
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  8. Mr Bungle

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    That wasn't what he meant though, which I suspect you already know.

    Fair enough, I understand why you have to celebrate the achievements of other teams.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    And I understand why you're hiding behind a sock to follow HIAG about and take cheap shots like a coward. <ok>
     
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  10. The Changing Man

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    We are not mind readers we can only answer the question that was asked which is what we have done

    I think we are celebrating the achievements of players that play for Spurs
     
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    He achieved it during his time with Spurs, yes?

    Just letting you know, you're not going to dig your way out of this hole, so you should really stop now
     
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  13. BrunelGunner

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    Has he or have the club treated him badly? Like I said before, it's clear that Arsenal have tried every possible way to make life so uncomfortable for him to the point where he demands to leave. It hasn't worked. He then starts consecutive games under Arteta, doesn't take a paycut and then isn't selected anymore.

    Surely, that's the club's decision taking precedence rather than his?

    I'd obviously prefer it if he's off the books because it's costing us more than he's worth and the entire saga has been dull. But if it's clear he's not going anywhere, and wants to see out his final year, we may as well try to make use of him. He's said several times he wants to play and is available to play. If that is the case, it's not clear if he has given up.


    That was a Freudian slip <laugh> But surely, you can see that any current player or ex-player poking fun at their rivals will be lauded on social media. I'm fairly sure Kane's had a view digs at us via Piers Morgan. Even your manager's fired plenty of shots at us, and it garnered loads of attention. It happens.
     
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    He's given up. He's totally disinterested in football now.

    Players or ex-players in good standing are free to chat **** about the opposition and they'll be lauded for it.
    People sitting on their arses whining about the club or people that have left after acting like ****s shouldn't be afforded that privilege.
    There are a couple of examples given above of those that Spurs fans wouldn't appreciate doing it.
     
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    If Arteta is even contemplating starting him, he can't be that disinterested in football for now.

    This is why I'm saying that your perception of Ozil and the way he's perceived by sections of our fanbase aren't the same. They don't see him as someone who was sitting on their arse not bothering. He contributed a lot for his first 4 years. He was poor in Wenger's final year (17/18). Emery tried to freeze him out midway through 18/19, but it didn't work and ended up playing more towards the end. Then was frozen out again this season up until Emery got sacked. Arteta began to play him more, then lockdown happened, and he's not featured since (although that may change).

    There's a divided view on him, so even though there are those who think he's a waste of space not trying hard enough, others will say he's been let down by the club and has mitigating circumstances. So a sizeable group of people will feel he's done enough to warrant chatting **** about Spurs (particularly given his first few years at the club).

    Maybe I missed this because I didn't see it. Who are you referring to?
     
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    Arteta gave everyone a clean sheet this season, by all accounts. Guendouzi was the main example, IIRC.
    I think it's more to do with the current attitude of the fans, to be honest.
    Judas and Jason Cundy were the two that I saw.
     
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    Well, I'm thinking perhaps he's trying to flaunt Guendouzi in the shop window and isolating him from the core squad hasn't helped because it reaffirmed people's beliefs of him having attitude/discipline issues. Which made it harder to flog him off. Ozil is a little different in that respect. Honestly, if Ozil didn't seem committed, I'm positive Arteta wouldn't consider playing him. He's declined, but I don't think that's due to lack of effort. He covered the most distance in our win against Man United on NYD, for example. His decline is more due to the classical #10 role becoming obsolete, as he doesn't possess the physical qualities required for the modern game.

    What do you mean?

    Cundy I get, but Sol joined us on a free transfer after claiming he was going to stay with you guys <laugh> He's hardly going to be welcomed with open arms by your lot. So this is an outlier.
    Does he even look back on his time at Spurs that fondly?
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

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    De Bruyne plays the same role and has similar physical qualities. He won Player of the Year, scored 13 goals and got 20 assists.
    As the team has declined the fans are almost entirely focused on Spurs.
    Judas hates us. He's a Tory twat who despises most of the clubs that he's played for and has sued at least one of them.
    The perfect Arsenal man! <laugh>
     
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  19. BrunelGunner

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    De Bruyne is stronger, retains possession better, can accelerate faster and defends from the front. Ozil isn't really, and hasn't been, this type of player ever. In a time where the Prem demands more athleticism, speed and physical prowess, I don't think Ozil and de Bruyne overlap at all.

    There was a good article on this topic written last year:
    https://www.espn.co.uk/football/ars...line-shows-footballs-no-10s-are-a-dying-breed

    Yeah I agree, but the prominence of football banter on social media has also risen drastically. Loads of these anonymous fan accounts can tweet the most illogical, inaccurate piece of information, and it'll get thousands of retweets and likes, if it ridicules a rival club. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. It's not just unique to Arsenal fans, it's with most of the fanbases of the big clubs.
     
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    De Bruyne's better and more willing to make tackles. They play exactly the same role, though.
    Ozil covers plenty of ground, so it's nothing to do with stamina or athleticism.
    He just won't get stuck in or put himself about. He doesn't care and won't do it. It's not physical or his position.

    That article suggests that De Bruyne's not playing that position any more, which just isn't true.
    Fernandes for Utd and Maddison for Leicester are other obvious examples for success last season and that's just the top 4.
    Liverpool are the exception from those sides.
    This is largely true, but the rise of AFTV has seen a lot more of it from Arsenal fans than those of other clubs, in my opinion.
    Claude getting binned and Troops doing a runner to New York might help, but I suspect it will just create vacancies.
    There's money to be made.
     
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