Just read reports in Spain saying Real would accept offers of 22 million for Bale. Seeing as we missed out on getting Messi on a free should we bring Bale home?
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Absolutely. Needs to be right for the player because you can’t force someone to take a job somewhere. We could have a sweet offer from Baku but if Wes and his family don’t fancy Azerbaijan then there’s no way to make him move. Short of paying someone a load of extra money of course. Unsurprisingly the ethical buying and selling of human beings and their labour is complicated. We always oversimplify it as fans.
I think mainly because it send out the wrong message. We're playing hardball here. It may drag things out another year but people know they can't take advantage just because we are desperate to offload.
From I understand from reports is that other clubs are happy to pay the fee, Hoedt is happy to leave but Hoedt doesn't want a drop in pay and the other clubs won't or can't pay Hoedt what he wants. I think it is the same with Lemina.
I'm not sure if both are cutting their noses to spite their faces or are being clever knowing a loan means they are still quids in. Probably a bit of both.
With one year left on their contracts next year both should be happy to go permanently as they will be unemployed the following year. Loan moves are just about saving money.
We are still paying for bad transfer decisions 2 or 3 years ago basically due to no due diligence on the players character being done.
I don’t understand why you’d look to sell an asset for less than half its valuation. Unless it’s Danny Osvaldo. If a loan covers his wages and as Semmens is saying we don’t need to sell to buy what we need in this window then why on Earth would they accept a low offer? It looks bad and doesn’t really solve anything. You’re just making more of a loss, faster.
If he sits on loan with salary paid and we get a £3m offer next summer then we’ve done better than if we’d taken it now. If he kills it on loan and we get a better offer then it’s better still. Not to mention that Wes is likely happier to take that move in a year to have the guaranteed employment for another 3-4 years. As I said before, people arranging this stuff know more than we do about the specifics of his contract, the loan and any service length bonuses that may affect things. No point getting irate about things you don’t understand.
If he sits on loan with salary paid and we get a £3m offer next summer then we’ve done better than if we’d taken it now. If he kills it on loan and we get a better offer then it’s better still. Not to mention that Wes is likely happier to take that move in a year to have the guaranteed employment for another 3-4 years. As I said before, people arranging this stuff know more than we do about the specifics of his contract, the loan and any service length bonuses that may affect things. No point getting irate about things you don’t understand.
Just because Semmens has said we don't need to sell to buy it doesn't make it true.
Maybe, but the football side of the club is patently being run much better than it was a couple of years ago by Reed and his cronies.
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But i do agree that we don't know all the details here and therefore there might be other reasons to not accept smaller offers. Things like charging loan fees would change the financial implications for example. So i guess all we can do is hope this board are indeed as competent as we think/hope.
Pretty simple this - if that asset is costing you £40k(?) a week and will walk away for free in 2 years anyway - then you would quite clearly be better off selling it for £3m as soon as you possibly can. Even if you do get all wages covered (unlikely) by loans, he leaves for free in 2 years anyway.
But i do agree that we don't know all the details here and therefore there might be other reasons to not accept smaller offers. Things like charging loan fees would change the financial implications for example. So i guess all we can do is hope this board are indeed as competent as we think/hope.
Or £100.00 per week and a season ticket for the Southampton Municipal Golf Course, and Matt Le Tiss to go round with him.
It might not be that simple. We don’t know how we laid the cost out in the accounts; could have been amortised over a few years. He could also have a contract that we’d have to pay up. There are all sorts of twists and turns.
I doubt it’s simple.
Brugge are offering a loan with a commitment signing him next season. Where Anderlecht are just after a loan
Are we going to send Les Read a bill for the tens of millions pounds that he wasted on appallingly bad transfers during his last couple of years of his tenure
Good news for Exeter.
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As long as you don't mind receiving a bill for the millions he made us on players earlier in his tenure. We really need to move on from the blame game. It's a team game behind the scenes as well as on the pitch and in reality we've had no more mistakes than most other clubs
I share your frustration. Every summer we have to do deals that have nothing to do with the football and everything to do with £££s
But ... the club just have to keep making the best of a bad situation and other European leagues haven’t got our financial resources
Headline £7.3m will be negotiating figure, maybe we’ll get lucky and get a straight deal with a smaller fee, who knows?
When do the Hoedt Carrillo Lemina contracts end? I guess 1 year from then we may accept less
EDIT: Which is next year, Thanks Soria Saint
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The asking price probably includes the amount of the players outstanding wages that we have to pay him so the asking price is just covering his outstanding wages. Hence a loan deal for a season reduces the amount odf wages we are liable for
