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Charities cash struggles

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Bigmackem, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. Guinness Guzzler

    Guinness Guzzler Well-Known Member

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    Must admit, I've got no issue with RNLI. Got a couple of cousins from Eyemouth who served in the Scots Guards and now volunteer for them. Seems a decent organisation on the whole. Normally fling a few quid in when I see them asking, I'm soft as ****e and they'd probably knack me if I didn't!
     
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  2. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    They do a cracking job it just boils my piss that the scumbags in charge give away the donation money, all the work done by the guys on the ground are as volunteers yet the fat cats in the big houses and sipping dom perignon couldn't give a flying **** about the money raised by joe public.as long as they look good and the minions get 10 pence in every pound raised , and they don't have to pay a penny in tax.
     
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  3. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan Forum Moderator

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    A good few years ago one of my mates was the chairman of CHUF (Children's Heart Unit Fund), and he told me about the way that funds are utilised in most charities . . . . that approximately 93% of donations were to fund the salaries of 'the people at the top' and admin., and the other 7% went to the children, whereas at CHUF it was the other way round 'cos it's run by volunteers !

    That's when I stopped donations to most charities.

    Ironically, one of the charities that I continued to support was the RNLI 'cos that was apparently one of the good-uns. This thread has changed that, though !

    A few on here know that during the last 20 years I (with mates) have done annual charity bike rides (various c2c routes) but they have never been for the benefit of recognised charities :emoticon-0145-shake

    Our initial thought was to do it for the Downs Syndrome Association, 'cos of my boy, but it was obvious that with them being based 100s of miles down south, neither he or any disabled person up here would see a penny of it. We decided to do all of these rides for his 'special' school in Hebburn, where the staff get paid anyway and every single penny would be for the benefit of the children there . . . . what a good decision that was :emoticon-0148-yes:

    We thoroughly enjoyed doing this for them, continued to do so for years after my boy left the school, and we even had our mugshots in the 'Sheels Gazette every year :emoticon-0111-blush

    This is the sort of charitable cause that I've supported for many years, and the kind that I'd encourage others to do (although you don't have to nearly kill yourself getting soaked (which hid some tears, and was usually the case) and muddy/filthy cycling up rather large hills (mountains) in The Lake District :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  4. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    You asked:::
    They don't have donors permission to throw money around like that, creches in Bangladesh ffs.

    I responded:::
    that’s not true, I’ve know for years about overseas aid, it’s on the financial reports.
    Just admit you are wrong for once, go on be the man.
     
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  5. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    So a fair few
    Muslims in the country, thanks for claifying.
     
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  6. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    Some pathetic sad tweets right here, one the story broke last year or when the daily mail gammons found out) donations increased, obviously people were outraged at people being outraged at trying to save lives overseas
     
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  7. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    righto, maybe you could read before engaging your brain?
    I bid my farewell last night as I was and still am on call, you know like when my pager goes off at 3am to help with suicides off one of our four bridges? That call.
     
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  8. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    don’t know where you find the info that all volunteers don’t get paid, it’s wrong, like most of your other posts
     
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  9. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    cheers GG a bit of perspective amongst the stereotypical angry at nowt brigade
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I'm talking about donors like myself who used to give generously, for years, until I found that millions was being thrown away.

    I can't be wrong because it's my money, that goes into that big pot ...

    ... I and many others don't want money going abroad while improvements are needed in the UK.

    In my opinion the RNLI shouldn't seek to be an international presence and certainly not political in any way. The government of foreign countries are responsible for the welfare of their people, I don't want to contribute unless it's for a specific appeal.

    Sorry if you can't see that.
     
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  11. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    Of course I can see it, it’s disappointing you feel you no longer wish to donate, what some people can’t see is that we are and certainly seen as world leaders in life saving techniques.
    Our expertise is requested and passed on, if one life saved from a donation occurs then it’s a win win. All lives matter don’t they?
    In the scheme of things funds being used overseas does not affect the lads and lasses on these and Irish shores, that’s maybe the perspectives people are missing, forget the redundancies, they were all fantasy jobs which brought nowt to the party, nobody has missed them as harsh as it maybe.
    I would be interested in what improvements are needed here to justify your thought process tho.
     
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  12. The Norton Cat

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    Bloody hell. All this because someone stuck their head over the parapet to defend the RNLI. Ridiculous.
     
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  13. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    35 % BUT NOT A MUSLIM COUNTRY LIKE YOU SAY, GLAD TO CLARIFY FOR YOU AS YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING THE ENGLISH WRITTEN WORD.
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    And what's your opinion?

    It's a chat forum, the subject is charities ...

    ... people are giving their opinions on charities including the RNLI.

    What exactly were you expecting to find on a chat forum ...
     
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  15. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    Its like a Daily Mail, Tory voting, Farage fest in here.
     
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  16. wearside wanderer II

    wearside wanderer II Well-Known Member

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    sorry mate, I’ll take info from a variety of google articles rather than a nutter on here.
    Is Tanzania a Muslim country?


    Islam in Tanzania is the second largest religion in the country after Christianity. ... More than 99% of the population of the Zanzibar archipelago is Muslim. The majority of Muslims in Tanzania are Sunni of Shafi school of jurisprudence, with unusually significant Shia and Ahmadi minorities in sub-Saharan Africa

    seemingly you are unable to read due to your shouting and stamping of feet
     
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  17. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    Which is always better than, a commie voting, Corbynista loving,country hating twats who should **** off if they don't like it.
     
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  18. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    On a chat forum? Chat. Not demands that your questions are answered.:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Very poor, your argument had been quite decent up til now ....

    ... Im always happy to debate but can't be doing with ludicrous innacurate insults.
     
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  20. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    Dodoma, Tanzania, May 21, 2014 / 02:17 am MT ().- Members of the small Christian minority on the Tanzanian islands of Zanzibar are suffering intimidation and now fear that their children will be coerced to convert to Islam, one resident said.

    “If we go to church on Sunday, we have to go through a crowd of people who often try to intimidate us,” a Catholic man speaking under the pseudonym Matthew Limo told the Catholic pastoral charity Aid to the Church in Need.
    The houses around Limo’s church belong to Muslims.
    “They often shout that we are fools to go to church or that our women are naked. In fact, the Muslim women are all covered from head to toe,” he said.
    Limo said that he personally does not feel intimidated, though he noted that many of the harassers’ comments are “directed towards women and children.”
    His parish has about 400 members, though only 200 regularly go to Mass. About 98 percent of the Zanzibar archipelago residents are Muslim.

    Limo voiced concern about his children’s future.

    “At home we try to encourage and to teach them a love for Christ and the Church. But we are insecure about what others do,” he said. “We often hear
    stories about Muslims trying to convert children. Sadly enough we need to tell our children to be careful in building friendships with Muslim children.”

    A trend of violent attacks on churches and individual Christians began on the Zanzibar islands in December 2012.

    Father Evarist Muchi, a 55-year-old Catholic priest, was shot to death when his car arrived at the entrance of St. Joseph’s Cathedral for Sunday Mass. A Protestant minister has also been killed.

    Father Ambrose Mkenda suffered serious injuries in another attack, Aid to the Church in Need reports.

    The perpetrators have not been caught and many local Christians say local police have at times obstructed the investigation and distorted evidence.

    Limo said the perpetrators are not outsiders but locals who have been “radicalized.” He said they have been trained by the Somalia-based terrorist group Al-Shabab. He said the organization is linked to the religious group Uamsho, which aims to establish an independent Islamic state in Zanzibar.

    While Limo said he feels generally safe to leave home and to travel, he added that the atmosphere can become “explosive” in election years.

    “On the street, people try to embarrass you or to make you angry. In periods like that I come home early and do not go out in the evening.”

    The next election will take place in 2015.
    Some anti-Christian violence has also taken place on the Tanzanian mainland. In May 2013 an attack on a newly opened Catholic parish killed three and injured 60. Two Tanzanians and four Saudi nationals were arrested for the attack.

    In February 2014, Bishop Bernardin Mfumbusa of Tanzania’s north-central Diocese of Kondoa blamed the violence on the “infiltration of foreign Jihadis” and the return of native-born Muslims who had been radicalized abroad.

    The bishop told Aid to the Church in Need that most Tanzanians of different religions live together well. He noted that Christian-Muslim tension in Zanzibar is “not new,” though he said the “vast majority” of people on Zanzibar would prefer to live in peace.
     
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