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US Election

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Aug 13, 2020.

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Who will win?..

  1. Biden

    18.3%
  2. Bobby D

    45.0%
  3. Tobes

    1.7%
  4. China, China, China

    6.7%
  5. Trump

    8.3%
  6. Russia

    6.7%
  7. Dominic Cummings

    3.3%
  8. Other

    10.0%
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  1. pieguts

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    Although I can’t Claim to know too much about it, I think Germany has the right answer. A dedicated healthcare tax set at 8% of your salary, so the high end earners pay a bit more, combined with central government funding.
     
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    Overall I'm fairly centralist in my politics with a leftward lean but I do have some concerns over everything scaling upwards when people earn more money - morally it's clearly correct but in practical terms can cause issues.

    As an example as it just happens to be a situation I know about but I'm sure there's others. High earning doctors in this country will be on over £100k (senior consultants and surgeons) and I've got no major issue with that (they'd get paid more elsewhere - like the USA for instance) but given the higher contributions that kick for a multitude of things (higher pensions contributions, etc.) once they get past around the £110k mark they only actually keep 13p in every £1 they earn as the combined deductions are 87%.

    It means that if you want to get them to come in and do extra shifts or cover for absence then even if on paper it's good money the additional take home is not. Clearly it's hard to have any real sympathy for someone who is earning that much money but you can see it would be very difficult to convince them it's in their best interests to help out with extra work (as has been the case currently with Covid) as realistically you're asking them to do it out of goodwill rather than for extra money.
     
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    But he's only just heard it and really the democrats should have checked on these things absolute tosh
     
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    What? Is that sarcasm?
     
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    Sorry - yes there are two blond haired idiots that I really detest and Trump is one
     
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    Trump is absolute scum. He has such a deep-rooted racism and tries to hide behind a "it's just what I've been told" defence. I would be terrible at politics as I'd end up saying "So I heard today that Trump has hideous child p*rn, I mean really sick stuff, I can't even tell you about it it's so bad. It's just what I've heard from lots of reliable people and the FBI are looking into it so I can't say any more". It seems a proportionate response to be honest, although the birther thing is clearly nonsense whereas the nonce stuff... who can say.
     
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    I can't wait for him to be de-elected and then, well, he's one of us and can be prosecuted.
     
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    Making **** up and floating it out there without actually putting your own name to it. Standard Bannon inspired tactics. Bannon should be lobbed in Tel’s wood chipper.
     
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    If he loses, he’ll resign before leaving office and Pence will give him a full pardon. Just watch.
     
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    Pence couldn't even wipe his nose if he wasn't told how to do it.

     
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    There will definitely be a few of his administration scrambling for safety. Be interesting to see who gets thrown under the bus and how quickly others distance themselves from Trump.
    I think many will be trying to save their own skins to worry about saving Trump.
     
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    It’d be box office to watch, as they know the minute they’re out of office the skeletons will come clonking out of the closets and they’ll be completely exposed. Which given the level of privilege and power we’re talking about, makes their shameless and now open, attempts to blatantly cheat, grow ever more desperate.
     
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    On raising more money for the NHS one obvious way is to remove loads of the prescription charge exemptions for example Diabetes as it a complete nonsense imo to have some conditions exempted & not others . There is also the fact that some of the exemptions for treatments / equipment don't include more recent alternatives .
     
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    A completely false economy that, as you’d increase the cost to the NHS as a direct result.

    https://www.pharmaceutical-journal....ndnbspwealth/20203213.article?firstPass=false
     
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    Who knew..........

     
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    disagree and i take that report with a pinch of salt as it looks like it was commisioned to produce the reported effect to try and get RA and other long term conditions added to the exemption list or free prescriptions for all .
     
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    No prescription charges in Wales mate ...
     
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    You’re choosing to decry it as it doesn’t correlate with your assertion mate.
     
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  20. Solid Air 2

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    nor in Scotland .
    My view is there should be .
     
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