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canary-dave said:
You're backing up my point sir, you can't say we only want a black manager, that just won't work <ok>
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What I saw and heard Raheem Sterling advocating, is equal opportunity, not a quota of black managers irrespective of ability. There is both need and scope for positive discrimination in football without introducing any such quota system. Football is no different from anything else; there should be equal opportunity for all.
 
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If a potential manager is good enough,clubs will bring him in,same as players,irrespective of colour.
The truth is,that the proportion of black managers is very low,a direct opposite to the proportion of black players
The bottom line is if you are good enough you will get the gig.
 
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Bure budgie said:
If a potential manager is good enough,clubs will bring him in,same as players,irrespective of colour.
The truth is,that the proportion of black managers is very low,a direct opposite to the proportion of black playets.
The bottom line is if you are good onough you will get the gig.
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Couldn't have put it better myself sir.

QED
 
It's good to hear that, uniquely in a country demonstrably rife with institutional discrimination of every sort, football management is a true meritocracy. It almost defies belief! :cheesy:
 
Saw this on Twitter and thought it worth adding to the conversation... Speaks for itself. Meritocracy or not in football management, there's room for more diversity in sport leadership.

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Part of the problem is it takes time for the decisions of the past to have effect. Unfortunately no one has time now days, they want it and they want it now.
 
Yes! haha

I was really pleased for Kings Lynn I always keep an eye out for their results, they are only two leagues off Ipswich now. Might be a more attractive place for us to loan some players, can still train at Norwich a bit and have the support of living at home.
 
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zogean_king said:
Yes! haha

I was really pleased for Kings Lynn I always keep an eye out for their results, they are only two leagues off Ipswich now. Might be a more attractive place for us to loan some players, can still train at Norwich a bit and have the support of living at home.
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I'll be the first to admit I know little about the King's Lynn squad, etc, but you'd think this is a golden opportunity for Norwich?

Kings Lynn having achieved back to back promotions presumably have a squad that needs augmenting, and signing players is going to be especially tricky this summer, both financially and in terms of even being able to get players to move location!

And equally Norwich are presumably going to struggle to send players to the Dutch or Belgian second division any time soon. Having an established "feeder club" on our doorstep could be really positive in terms of getting exposure to adult football for our youngsters, whilst still allowing them to train and learn as a cohort at Colney.

Neil Adams would probably appreciate the shorter journeys too!
 
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Wigan Athletic have gone into administration, becoming the first English professional club to do so since the coronavirus pandemic began.
The English Football League has said Wigan will be deducted 12 points.
The sanction will be applied at the end of this season if the Latics, 14th in the Championship, finish outside the bottom three after 46 games.
Should Wigan finish in the relegation zone, the penalty will be applied during the 2020-21 season instead.
Wigan have won all three of their league games since the resumption of the Championship season on 20 June.

The 1st of many me thinks.
 
Bure budgie said:
Wigan Athletic have gone into administration, becoming the first English professional club to do so since the coronavirus pandemic began.
The English Football League has said Wigan will be deducted 12 points.
The sanction will be applied at the end of this season if the Latics, 14th in the Championship, finish outside the bottom three after 46 games.
Should Wigan finish in the relegation zone, the penalty will be applied during the 2020-21 season instead.
Wigan have won all three of their league games since the resumption of the Championship season on 20 June.

The 1st of many me thinks.
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Have seen a tweet earlier saying how betting on EFL relegation spots over the next 18 months is going to be based on financial analysis rather than footballing. There's going to be a lot of teams, in a lot of leagues, picking up sanctions like this.

Any club without a rich owner happy to put money in is going to struggle, especially if they don't have a fan base they can significantly monetise in ways other than ticket sales, or a really small/well-managed wage bill.
 
might get a whole bunch deciding at the same time that if we all go, then you deduct 12 points from half the league they still stand a chance of escape
 
zogean_king said:
might get a whole bunch deciding at the same time that if we all go, then you deduct 12 points from half the league they still stand a chance of escape
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This is an interesting twitter thread:
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The brief summary is that there's a strong chance Wigan didn't need to go into administration, and that there's a theory that the club owners did so because they wanted to take the 12 point penalty. That 12 point penalty makes relegation highly likely, and would net the owners/affiliates a large sum of money from a very large bet placed with the bookies. Potentially the same bookies that are Wigan's shirt sponsor...
 
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This is an interesting twitter thread:
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The brief summary is that there's a strong chance Wigan didn't need to go into administration, and that there's a theory that the club owners did so because they wanted to take the 12 point penalty. That 12 point penalty makes relegation highly likely, and would net the owners/affiliates a large sum of money from a very large bet placed with the bookies. Potentially the same bookies that are Wigan's shirt sponsor...
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Surly that is illegal?
 
BBC's Dan Roan interviewing EFL chief Rick Parry on Wigan's going into administration:

Roan: How much veracity do you give about the rumour someone bet on Wigan going down?

Since it was announced that the club had entered administration, various rumours have surfaced - including one Parry recounted to a fan while being secretly filmed - that Wigan had been the subject of a bet to get relegated.

Parry: "Almost none. It's highly unlikely because while the betting market in the Philippines is not the most tightly regulated, they are run by some extremely smart people.

"The likelihood that a Philippines bookmaker would take a substantial bet on a club to be relegated is almost nil. It is not going to happen - it is very implausible."
 
robbieBB said:
BBC's Dan Roan interviewing EFL chief Rick Parry on Wigan's going into administration:

Roan: How much veracity do you give about the rumour someone bet on Wigan going down?

Since it was announced that the club had entered administration, various rumours have surfaced - including one Parry recounted to a fan while being secretly filmed - that Wigan had been the subject of a bet to get relegated.

Parry: "Almost none. It's highly unlikely because while the betting market in the Philippines is not the most tightly regulated, they are run by some extremely smart people.

"The likelihood that a Philippines bookmaker would take a substantial bet on a club to be relegated is almost nil. It is not going to happen - it is very implausible."
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Case closed then <laugh>
 
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