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Off Topic OLOF's political thread

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. brisbane-lion

    brisbane-lion Well-Known Member

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    Really, Johnny, and what are my preconceived notions exactly? Old saying "If ignorance is bliss, then it's folly to be wise".
     
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  2. Whitejock

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    Quite glad I can't grow anything between my ears. Why would you want to? <yikes>

    You carry on trying though, but the only thing I know that grows between the ears is cancer. Which might go some way towards explaining your evidently unstable mental state. <doh>
     
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  3. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps, but this wasn't about Trump. It's about a 'new country' in Seattle. It's perfectly factual, with lots of evidence to support this in the video. Are you telling me that he's made it up? Even the Police evacuated their precinct for them!
     
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  4. Whitejock

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    What is the evidence to support your claim that Antifa is racist. I have never read anything about this. Sounds like someone is making it up.

    Here's an article that might help you learn a little about them, albeit with a US flavour. In it, you'll find that they are indeed anti-racism. So why are you calling them racist? Please provide evidence to support your claim, if you can find anything truthful - and not an opinion from a nutter like Captain Jackboot.

    https://news.wbfo.org/post/what-antifa-separating-fact-fiction
     
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  5. Irishshako

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    Surely they are anti black racist....my own opinion:grin:
     
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  6. milkyboy

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    yeh he’s pretty tough, spouting bollox from his bunker
     
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  7. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    Brains and morals/ethics would have been preferred.
     
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  8. lifecheshirewhite

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    Go on Jonny tell us how burning a little black kid called Stompy to death with a burning tyre was all good. Done by whinnie Mandela and the ANC.
    And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't apartheid only end through Nelson Mandela giving up violence ?
     
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  9. Irishshako

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    Didn't most of them.<ok>
     
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  10. Irishshako

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    He inherited a lot of ****...<ok>
     
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  11. Irishshako

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    Give him a chance to wake up:grin:
     
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  12. milkyboy

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    History is written by the winners, people justify dreadful things in 'war' to achieve their aims. Neither Mr nor Mrs Mandela were saints that's for sure. 'Freedom fighters' are rarely kind to informers for obvious reasons, but Necklacing was a vile and sick way to act as a deterrant.

    I think Jonny's point is generally in these cases there are terrible crimes committed on both sides. There isn't always a 'right' side of the argument, but in cases like apartheid, most people would say there was one. Does the end justify the means? Depends on your perspective.
     
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  13. lifecheshirewhite

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    If you justify one, then it justifies all.

    I don't mean YOU personally
     
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  14. milkyboy

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    good job I wasn’t justifying anything then

    Not many have a clean slate. To me Churchill is a bonafide hero, I think to you too. Has some skeletons though doesn’t he?
     
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  15. lifecheshirewhite

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    Who doesn't
     
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  16. davy

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    Not that you're political or anything. <laugh><laugh>
     
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  17. Irishshako

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    Not at all Davy....:angel:
     
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    The idiot caught pissing next to a police memorial pleaded guilty today and got 14 or 16 days in jail (can’t remember what they said on the radio news) I hope the same if not more severe punishment will be dealt to those defacing other statues and buildings with BLM graffiti
     
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  19. Eric Le Merde

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    He got 14 days in custody for outraging public decency, well he is a Tottenham supporter.
     
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  20. JonnyLosAngeles

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    No and no!

    Winnie Mandela and the Mandela Football Club, a vigilante group of thugs and criminals was disgraceful. Nelson Mandela was enraged by this setup and by the murder you have noted. It ultimately led to their divorce and estrangement.

    Nelson Mandela was a professional, lawyer, at a time when it was extremely difficult for a black person to become anything in South Africa.

    You are wrong. Nelson Mandela refused to give up violence, noting ANC violence was in reaction to SAPS and SADF violence. He was right. After decades of peaceful protest being met with a heavy handed government response, the ANC saw no other path. He repeatedly refused being let out jail - alone (would not leave his colleagues behind) or in exchange for a renunciation of violence as the only means left after all the people and organizations had been banned.

    I mean this genuinely, I am happy to exchange ideas so we can all learn from each other.

    I am confident that you will agree with me this is not a personal issue between us.
     
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