Off Topic Madeleine McCann

[Warmir Pouchov]

they'd get told not to do again end of.. the fact that what actually happened to them being incomprehensibly bad is lost on these witch hunters. There's absolutely no benefit to punishing this family any more.. they have had a punishment in spades..

it's worth noting this thread started with these people accusing them of the murder as they have over the years .... then their faced with this guy and the almost nailed on confirmation. A good person would apologise for that , but they just keep spitting .. regardless of their disgusting and false accusations over a 13 year period. I find that disgusting personally.

I could not help but laugh at these people when after they've spent 13 years shouting murderer at the parents that they've then had the gaul to revert to saying this guy us innocent until proven guilty... unbelievable.

Some want it to fit the crime. Follow the evidence is the only way.

They were wrong to leave them in my opinion. And to sedate them. They will of course have suffered massively. The loss of their child knowing their part by leaving her, the ongoing none stop abuse they've received from the press (proven) and general public, and also I'm sure of less importance, the loss of professional/public standing. I'm sure the PI's, legals etc has hit them financially.

Even if the guy confessed, they found a body corroborating and they were proven to have no involvement, some would still vilify them as monsters.

 

[Fox Mulder]

If they are involved then I wish them a very rough ride in prison.

it's not even up for debate now to.anyone with the ability to put two and two together.

the parents have been innocent all along and these people are so far into their argument they're now in denial when faced with this guy.... either that or they are just a complete moron

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

it's not even up for debate now to.anyone with the ability to put two and two together.

the parents have been innocent all along and these people are so far into their argument they're now in denial when faced with this guy.... either that or they are just a complete moron

It would seem highly unlikely.

I do love a plot twist though

 

[Magnet]

it's not even up for debate now to.anyone with the ability to put two and two together.

the parents have been innocent all along and these people are so far into their argument they're now in denial when faced with this guy.... either that or they are just a complete moron

Which is why the Police are still seeking further evidence and have not yet charged this German guy. Innocent until proven guilty. You’re doing exactly the same but in reverse as to those you are mocking for believing the McCann’s did it.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Some want it to fit the crime. Follow the evidence is the only way.

They were wrong to leave them in my opinion. And to sedate them. They will of course have suffered massively. The loss of their child knowing their part by leaving her, the ongoing none stop abuse they've received from the press (proven) and general public, and also I'm sure of less importance, the loss of professional/public standing. I'm sure the PI's, legals etc has hit them financially.

Even if the guy confessed, they found a body corroborating and they were proven to have no involvement, some would still vilify them as monsters.

they did something ridiculous there's no doubt, but nobody deserves that and they have to live out the rest of their miserable lives knowing they could have changed it and in the knowledge of what horrors their child went through... that's a he'll of a punishment, so I don't know what these people think can make that any worse or what benefit it would have to the situation or the other kids in the family.

 

[Libby]

No I was talking in terms if they had committed a crime, it would probably be viewed as very minor I don't believe they were ever charged with a crime which suggests the law saw no crime had taken place.

So you think that leaving 3 young children alone at night while you go and piss it up isn't a crime?


You utterly moronic ****. I'm out.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Which is why the Police are still seeking further evidence and have not yet charged this German guy. Innocent until proven guilty. You’re doing exactly the same but in reverse as to those you are mocking for believing the McCann’s did it.

I knew you'd do that so thankyou.

turning to innocent until proven guilty the day your assertions about the parents murdering the child are in jeopardy is hilarious .

it's the hypocrisy I'm highlighting

if you cocksuckers are going to spend 13 years accusing the parents then you can **** right off turning to the innocent till proven guilty argument when I accuse a man already proven guilty of various child sex and rape offences

this guy is already guilty of things of such a magnitude.

You never cease to amaze me...

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

So you think that leaving 3 young children alone at night while you go and piss it up isn't a crime?


You utterly moronic ****. I'm out.

Pick your toys up before you go you messy ****

 

[Fox Mulder]

It would seem highly unlikely.

I do love a plot twist though

I don't otherwise I might just revert to innocent until proven guilty rather than admit I was wrong.

 

[Fox Mulder]

So you think that leaving 3 young children alone at night while you go and piss it up isn't a crime?


You utterly moronic ****. I'm out.

it's hardly comparable to most crimes mind mate. I think I've committed far worse , but thankfully the punishment was in line with the offence.

 

[Libby]

it's hardly comparable to most crimes mind mate. I think I've committed far worse , but thankfully the punishment was in line with the offence.

That depends on your viewpoint though really. I'd say in terms of morals that it's a terrible crime to neglect children of that age personally. I know people who have committed all sorts of crimes but wouldn't dream of doing that.

I've also know a couple who've been trying unsuccessfully to have children for years and they're always mortified that people can treat their children in that way.

Put it this way, I'd never socialise with people who think leaving young children alone is acceptable. There's only very few crimes that I'd also apply that to.

 

[Magnet]

I knew you'd do that so thankyou.

turning to innocent until proven guilty the day your assertions about the parents murdering the child are in jeopardy is hilarious .

it's the hypocrisy I'm highlighting

if you cocksuckers are going to spend 13 years accusing the parents then you can **** right off turning to the innocent till proven guilty argument when I accuse a man already proven guilty of various child sex and rape offences

this guy is already guilty of things of such a magnitude.

You never cease to amaze me...

No it’s not. It’s the hypocrisy and double standards you’re demonstrating that are evident.

Also respond as much as you want as my position is clear from what I have posted and the I have set out the reasons for my position. You keep responding with personal insults simply because people don’t agree with you. I have better things to do than try and discuss something this serious with someone whose sole aim is to shout the loudest and most often.

 

[Fox Mulder]

No it’s not. It’s the hypocrisy and double standards you’re demonstrating that are evident.

Also respond as much as you want as my position is clear from what I have posted and the I have set out the reasons for my position. You keep responding with personal insults simply because people don’t agree with you. I have better things to do than try and discuss something this serious with someone whose sole aim is to shout the loudest and most often.

get real.

I can't educate pork

read this

I never said innocent until proven guilty ... you'll never figure this out.


don't tell me why soul aim is either.. you can't understand a damn thing I say so don't try doing there

 

[Fox Mulder]

That depends on your viewpoint though really. I'd say in terms of morals that it's a terrible crime to neglect children of that age personally. I know people who have committed all sorts of crimes but wouldn't dream of doing that.

I've also know a couple who've been trying unsuccessfully to have children for years and they're always mortified that people can treat their children in that way.

Put it this way, I'd never socialise with people who think leaving young children alone is acceptable. There's only very few crimes that I'd also apply that to.

thats fine but I don't think their child being murdered required any further punishment and I think the people who've accused them of murder should face up to the possibility they themselves were out of order in some way...

I can debate with you mate it's always reasonable.

 

[Warmir Pouchov]

I've yet to meet or speak to anyone who thinks what they did was acceptable. In terms of the law it depends if you are talking what you think qualifies as a crime, or what the actual laws of the country are. The law has dealt with to fit the crime. Subject to new evidence.

With the other stuff it is innocent until proven. And the witch hunts and threats is obviously wrong. They were compensated by the press, but obviously the other stuff goes unchecked. There's a difference between believing they are guilty, discussing it on a forum and actively abusing a currently innocent set of parents though. People are too judgmental all round too.

 

[Fox Mulder]

folders is a nice bloke really, but he has an interesting view on things in some cases I guess we all do.. I think this threads a sensitive one tbh.

we all need to remember we're just human and try to not fall out over our differences.

it's hilarious tbh i think people argue over misunderstandings and misrepresentations of people's comments most of the time.

I forgot to read my own post

 

[Peej]

This is great, one opinion is that this bloke murdered her.
The other is the parents were involved. Still no evidence that she is dead, so how can people say she was murdered by this man.
Manslaughter charge against parent, fair.

strange that this bloke hasn’t been charged, some can already see his guilt in his eyes

 

[Fox Mulder]

This is great, one opinion is that this bloke murdered her.
The other is the parents were involved. Still no evidence that she is dead, so how can people say she was murdered by this man.
Manslaughter charge against parent, fair.

strange that this bloke hasn’t been charged, some can already see his guilt in his eyes

hmmm yes and given he's already guilty of raping 72 year woman and recording it , child sex crimes, drug dealing and other crimes it's a very accurate thing they've seen.

I get you on questining this crime ,but there's just the fact he's got convictions for child rape already and was in the area of 3 missing children , his internet activity , child pornography and him saying he wanted to capture something small and have fun with it for days , burgling hotels,changing ownership on car 2 the day after maddy vanished that's pricked my ears up.

I do wonder why you weren't preaching the innocent until proven guilty caution while yourself and others made your accusations though ..


beside all that your opinion is fine I just don't see consistency in your logic

I'm just more comfortable accusing this man than I am of accusing two parents who are guilty of being dumb tbh.

I've nailed my name to the mast on this guy ... if I'm wrong I'll Will start listening to flat earhers .

 

[Ben 10]

Guilty or not the parents are a pair of absolute arseholes

 

[Fox Mulder]

Guilty or not the parents are a pair of absolute arseholes

not really the debate but that's an accurate statement