Off Topic Madeleine McCann

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You miss the point about innocent until proven guilty.

Using this German guy as an example he may have murdered and raped some other child and that’s why he is in prison. But if he did not commit an offence relating to Madeline and if he is convicted as an easy patsy in order to “close” the file we could be letting the real offender off, whoever that is, and he could go on to commit more and similar offences against other children.

We should always make sure as far as we can that the person convicted of any offence is the actual offender.


Just pull out his finger nails until he confesses. Then Kate gets away with it.
 
I'm not going around in circles mate.... I have my stance it's all on here .. you're entitled to yours I just can't be arsed saying the same things

I will stick with my stance, circumstantial evidence and probability appear to be used here to pin it on a bloke. I have done the same with her parents.
 
I will stick with my stance, circumstantial evidence and probability appear to be used here to pin it on a bloke. I have done the same with her parents.
However it’s more plausible that a convicted rapist both adult and child is more likely the better suspect than the parents who are on the holidays.

I still think there’s a connection between him and one of the family or friends. But I have not facts about this it’s just my own take on it. The way the parents acted after this suggest that they are in some way guilty aswell. I’m thinking a coverup!
 
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However it’s more plausible that a convicted rapist both adult and child is more likely the better suspect than the parents who are on the holidays.

I still think there’s a connection between him and one of the family or friends. But I have not facts about this it’s just my own take on it. The way the parents acted after this suggest that they are in some way guilty aswell. I’m thinking a coverup!


they already know it's him.. they will get him..
 
However it’s more plausible that a convicted rapist both adult and child is more likely the better suspect than the parents who are on the holidays.

I still think there’s a connection between him and one of the family or friends. But I have not facts about this it’s just my own take on it. The way the parents acted after this suggest that they are in some way guilty aswell. I’m thinking a coverup!


Like I said yesterday in one reply, wouldn't surprise me if what they used to sedate her was from him.
 
Like I said yesterday in one reply, wouldn't surprise me if what they used to sedate her was from him.

well I have a feeling he was just a chancer and the more probable is the least far fetched, but we will hopefully get closer to the truth... it's a judgement call really I could be wrong but I'm confident
 
well I have a feeling he was just a chancer and the more probable is the least far fetched, but we will hopefully get closer to the truth... it's a judgement call really I could be wrong but I'm confident

The question is why did he only take Maddie then?

Could it be they accidentally administered a high dose of sedatives, because they wanted an adults night, went to check on her, realised they ****ed up, made a phone call to get rid of her and that's where he fits in.

The only question then is why was there blood in their car.
 
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The point is they committed a crime and just because they suffered tragedy that shouldn't negate that.

Punishments have to fit the crime though so comparing apples with oranges is just bad practice. They'd be charged at best with neglect failure to suitably protect the child. They certainly would not be looking at prison time. Even in cases where neglect has taken place over a long period of time (which is far worse despite the unfortunate outcome in this instance), the parent will have the child taken away but suffer no other consequences.

In the eyes of the law the crime they committed was very minor. It just had tragic consequences.
 
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The question is why did he only take Maddie then?

Could it be they accidentally administered a high dose of sedatives, because they wanted an adults night, went to check on her, realised they ****ed up, made a phone call to get rid of her and that's where he fits in.

The only question then is why was there blood in their car.

like I said yesterday I'm not getting into all the could bes. I'm just keeping it simple... this guy fits the profile of a child killer and he was there and changed vehicle ownership the day after... I believe they know they've got him. I also believe the most probable scenario is the least far fetched ..


kids bleed if you look in my car you'll find someone else's blood somewhere. I don't believe the parents had anything to do with it.. that's my stance and you are entitled to yours.

tbh who's right or wrong isn't really important, but finding out who's responsible is, so let's hope they have as I believe have something strong to work from.
 
In the eyes of the law the crime they committed was very minor. It just had tragic consequences.

Usually in high profile cases, they like to make an example of people. Either way, they should at least have their other kids taken off them.

Neglect definitely. Potential OD on prescribed drugs? Given their positions, this could result in them being struck off too.
 
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well I have a feeling he was just a chancer and the more probable is the least far fetched, but we will hopefully get closer to the truth... it's a judgement call really I could be wrong but I'm confident

Feelings doesnt get convictions, evidence does.
 
Usually in high profile cases, they like to make an example of people. Either way, they should at least have their other kids taken off them.

Neglect definitely. Potential OD on prescribed drugs? Given their positions, this could result in them being struck off too.

Disagree. No need to punish their other kids because they've made one mistake. Charge them for sure, have it on their record. I'm pretty sure they've learned from it and won't make the same mistake.

Its a different case if they are guilty of either an OD or being complicit in their disappearance. That isn't the case at present.

People want to make an example of them simply because they believe they are guilty of something far greater. Thankfully the law doesn't work like that. I have no desire to go back in time to pitchforks and witch hunts.

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Usually in high profile cases, they like to make an example of people. Either way, they should at least have their other kids taken off them.

Neglect definitely. Potential OD on prescribed drugs? Given their positions, this could result in them being struck off too.


My thought on the whole process is sedation gone wrong. Plenty of feeling from me that I am right <laugh>

White, middle class who vowed to remain in Portugal until they found her, until they were made suspects. If this were mick and sandra from Bootle they woudl have had other kids taken from them by social services when admitting leaving them alone.
 
Disagree. No need to punish their other kids because they've made one mistake. Charge them for sure, have it on their record. I'm pretty sure they've learned from it and won't make the same mistake.

Yeah, a low dose sedative is used now with the ones they kept.