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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
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  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    Because there wasn’t a spike in mysterious similar deaths probably.
     
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    You cant have it both ways Watford... I like your use of 'probably' ( you are learning).
     
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    That was sarcastic. You don’t have pandemics with a high rate of spread going unnoticed for months. Desperate.
     
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    He was meant to be there to advise the PM. This was confirmed. Where do you get all your rubbish from mate?
    It's not sinister or some cover-up The PM's adviser sat in on a meeting for the PM. A reporter confirmed he didn't interfere. Just accept it.
     
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    Publish the minutes then. Kill the story definitively rather than taking the word of propagandists for paid-up Tory mugs to swallow without questioning.
     
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    eer doctor I think you need to have a chat with the scientists that have been on TV/media who have been saying this thing could have been around for some time and can sit in people's bodies. I think you need to start listening mate. I keep telling you that the scientists still don't understand this fully and are surprised how things are developing.
    That's not me Watford that's from WHO/CDC/ and every other scientific organisation.

    If you know more than the scientist's mate please enlighten us with it?
     
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    They never publish minutes from these meetings <doh> What's your point here? Other than a witch hunt on Cummings from the Guardian it was always a non-starter. This is all because he masterminded Brexit and the election win and the lefties can't get over it and are trying to sling dirt.
     
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    No. It’s because 40000+ people have died and thousands more than had to because of “the science” we chose to follow which happens to have been different from the science chosen more successfully elsewhere. It’s because this government were brazen enough to go for the strategy at first that would kill many more tens of thousands still.

    Yeah it’s not great that there are no repercussions for the lies that duped enough thick spanners to win those votes and condemned us to even more unnecessary economic misery but that is not what this is about and shame on you for conflating the two.
     
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    Where has it been confirmed that 40K have died doctor? Show me the official figures. You have just posted this rubbish now back it up. I await your response.
     
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    Here we go again!
     
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    ****ing desperate, mate. That was a realistic estimate as of Tuesday so if it wasn’t quite there by then it will be comfortably by now. Call it 35000 if it makes you feel better cheerleading for this mob.

    Base it on the proportion of known deaths outside of hospitals elsewhere if you prefer. Those countries probably weren’t knowingly throwing those with symptoms back into care homes either.
     
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    Just tell him you have a mate who told you. Usually works with him!
     
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    Wa
    Watford you said
    At least show me the official NHS figures that say that. No ifs/buts mate. You claim this so back it up.
     
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    There are no official NHS figures as of yet for all deaths. Are you seriously clinging onto there being just over 20000 deaths while simultaneously lambasting China for fudging their numbers?
     
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    So your post is incorrect? You shouldn't make false accusations without being able to back it up. It may well end up being 40K or whatever but you need to stick to the facts mate. Stroller quoted something the other day and I asked him to show me the quote... funnily I am still waiting. truth is it was wrong like your post.

    All our deaths are recorded. Said before in hospital the get done on the day and out of hospital you now get 4 weeks to register a death (used to be 2 weeks ) which then goes on the ONS database. All the figures will come out at some point, it's not a cover-up! That is how we always do it.

    As for China... I wouldn't trust them with anything. They kill their own citizens and it doesn't get recorded. They have many many missing people.
     
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    The official figures aren't accurate anyway, according to a statistician on the radio recently.
    Even if 40,000 covid deaths is the latest/final figure, anyone dying who has the virus in their system is being counted as a covid death.
    This means that the actual number of people dying from the virus is likely to be much lower.

    Any day now, Westminster and the top scientific bods will be contacting not606, asking for the help of all our experts!
     
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    Pot and kettle suddenly spring to mind
     
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    Well they certainly need the help from somewhere mate cos they obviously arent capable themselves
     
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    No, it’s not incorrect. It’s a logical estimate based on the total deaths versus previous years and the share of deaths outside of hospital in other countries. That is backing it up.

    Certainly closer to the unknown full figure than hiding behind the numbers posted daily by the government.
     
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