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I don't see how we avoid a second wave to be honest, we're not going to be able to stay locked down for 12 months.
 
The only way to avoid a second wave and eradicate this forever is for the whole world to enforce a strict lockdown where everything is closed and nobody goes out or interacts with anyone for 3 weeks, if you are ill, tough you stay at home and yet worse.

After three weeks the disease will be gone. But then again maybe half the global population will be too.

..And that is why I never became a doctor or a scientist...or a politician.
 
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We will not be able to move freely without risk until there is a vaccine available to most if not all people. Life will not be the same for at least one year, possibly more. I said right at the beginning of this that I could not see a return to free travel. People will return to work because they have to...but will become insular in the rest of their life. I cannot see myself flying or going on a coach trip in the near future and will probably not go to the theatre, cinema, pub, restaurant or sports event until an effective vaccine is produced. If I’m typical in my age group this will be catastrophic for the holiday industry...especially in the UK. And for pubs reliant on older customers at lunchtime. And compared to other people I know, I’m quite laid back. Things are going to change.
 
We will not be able to move freely without risk until there is a vaccine available to most if not all people. Life will not be the same for at least one year, possibly more. I said right at the beginning of this that I could not see a return to free travel. People will return to work because they have to...but will become insular in the rest of their life. I cannot see myself flying or going on a coach trip in the near future and will probably not go to the theatre, cinema, pub, restaurant or sports event until an effective vaccine is produced. If I’m typical in my age group this will be catastrophic for the holiday industry...especially in the UK. And for pubs reliant on older customers at lunchtime. And compared to other people I know, I’m quite laid back. Things are going to change.
It’s going to take me ages to stop crossing to the other side of the road to avoid people walking the other way!
 
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I don't see how we avoid a second wave to be honest, we're not going to be able to stay locked down for 12 months.

Most countries will have a second and probably even a third wave. It's mostly a question of how large those waves are: if you are able to reduce new cases to a trickle before reopening, you might be able to contain it for a bit before further restrictions need to be put in place, and if you limit internal movement you might be able to get away with regional lockdowns instead of national.

Open too early though, and within two weeks you'll have a significantly more severe problem than previous. The goal is pretty much to have a gentle, reducing waveform, rather than giant whitecaps crashing against the population.
 
This is a huge event that has only been considered in theory before. All round the world people are learning as they go along. No one in the government is doing anything out of malice. Things will be right and things will be wrong. Can you imagine how much work is going on behind the scenes...and with the same number of ministers and civil servants as before. Like PPE, the government work force couldn’t be magicked out of thin air. Does anyone really think that Corbyn could have managed any better...likely to have worse because of inexperience. Oh, if only this crisis was being managed by the media with the gift of hindsight and the ability to turn back the clock. Have to look forward, not back. That’s been on my chest for some time...beats yelling f*** off at the tv.
Corbyn was calling for action and COBRA committee meetings whilst Johnson was swanning off to the country, going to Twickenham, allowing Cheltenham and the likes of Liverpool vs Atletico Madrid (cue BBC news t ten) to go ahead then shaking hands with infected patients, (that went well didn't it?). Still he'll take it on the chin as our loved ones are dying. I believe to that the testing and contact tracing would have been a priority under a Labour regime along with acting on the cygnus report findings. So yes I think Coryn would have done better. What greater experience does the incumbents have? Hancock, Raab, Patel oh and the missing in action Rees Mogg don't inspire confidence. Looking forward, at least parliament is sitting and there's some form of scrutiny.
 
I am extremely worried about the lockdown being ended prematurely, not for myself but for my wife. The fact that the virus could be with us, according to some, for the rest of the year, worries me even more, because that worry will never go away.
The need for me to protect my wife is my only thought at the moment, which is why I am badgering :emoticon-0105-wink: away to get furloughed.
On this point my hopes have risen again, because an update on 20th April, has a sentence, to paraphrase “The furlough scheme is intended for businesses whose operations have been greatly affected, HOWEVER ALL EMPLOYERS ARE ELIGIBLE TO USE IT “. I think that now removes my employer’s get out clause, because they have always insisted that it wasn’t open to them.
My email asking my employer to review the latest information has just been sent.