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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Feb 25, 2020.

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Boris...

  1. should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

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  2. let the bodies stack high

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  3. lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

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  1. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

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    Why would you not be able to catch it again ?
     
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    I'm not 100% sure but generally speaking your immune system has defeated it so you should be ok. Problems arise when it mutates though. At least with testing, if you're given the all clear you can still go back to doing normal lockdown things like shopping
     
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  3. Diego

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    So you are concerned about a gulf in reported deaths when you are not even sure how the deaths are calculated/reported by the various authority's ?
     
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    I think that's a valid concern. The only positive (or should I say hope) is that at least those that have had it, can return to work in some way or in stages, whilst those who haven't would still be in lockdown? It would improve the situation I mean.
     
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    How long exactly does it last on hands and clothes? A lot less time than the time you'd have been self isolating if you tested positive.

    I also didn't mention catching it again. If we actually tested people we would know whether this was possible.
     
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  6. Diego

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    No reason at all mate as far as i know, read the post i replied to before jumping in <ok>
     
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    I do t thi k it actually lasts a real long time on hands .
    A lot longer on hard services according to medical people
     
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    I didnt say you couldn't catch it again. Read it again before jumping in with your condescending ****.
     
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  9. brb

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    Cheers <ok>

    The problem is there is so much misinformation out in the worlds media, it's difficult to pin it down to fact. There was one report by an American broadcast, that supposedly came out of China, where one patient after recovering, harboured the virus in their body for a month, rather than two weeks. whether that is just an odd scenario or whether it could be more widespread I don't know. Much the same as I don't know if that story is true.

    Although I am concerned with the tests in what are we actually proving, and just because someone gets a green light one day, does not mean they are uninfected the next. Again I just don't know. Without scare mongering, could people be harbouring a bigger problem after being infected, I guess not, but how sure are we.
     
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    Yes I'm sure the gulf is enough to be concerned about. Especially the rate of increase of deaths, ours are far too many compared to the vast majority of the rest of the world.
     
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  11. Edelman

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    Well it seems very likely that you will be likely to catch it more than once just as with normal flu
     
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    Jeez, I know one thing, glad I haven't got to make these decisions, it's one almighty sword to fall on. One positive aspect is we will not be the first to lift the lockdown, so we can safely watch, what happens in other countries, I don't mean that condescending to those other countries.
     
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    Very good point !
    The last time I had flu was just after getting home from a winter holiday in Feb 2001 .
    I felt shocking for a week then fine .
    I went back to work but after 3 days I felt shocking again and had another full week off .
     
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    There was an article/documentary on SKY News, and they showed infected lungs before and after, and it certainly appeared from the images I saw, that the virus was still in situ. The microbiologist said even after you are dead, the virus still lives on you.
     
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    I saw (fleetingly) that China's increased by about 100 or so when they eased controls. They blamed it on ppl coming in from Africa or something so not to do with what we're talking about. Agree though, I'm both interested and worried. I asked the other day when New Zealand reported they'd got over the worst of it and were easing controls. Genuinely wish them well whilst thinking "well if you ease up now, while the rest of the world is fcked, aren't you asking for trouble"... but they probably know what they're doing going by how well they're doing <confused>
     
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    Seems an extremely reasonable explanation bearing in mind Spanish flu strains still exist
     
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    It's a double edged sword for us, we don't want to lift the lockdown too soon, but we also have to be realistic and recognise, a continued lockdown is going to cause great hardship, by that I mean lack of food to mouth for some people. It's how you balance the two without causing a total catastrophe.
     
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    I had proper flu days after my daughter was born, which is why I remember the date so vividly. It was horrendous. At one point I did think I was toast.
     
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    Agree with this completely. I give it to June before things become really bad, and by that I mean breaking point for a huge minority of people. Even if we take out mortgage payments, on average the guide is you have about a third of your income for utilities, food, other regular outgoings, but a lot of ppl's outgoings are much higher proportion. You're also supposed to have about 3 months in savings for emergencies but it's been reported regularly this is not the case for many. Add to that the level of other debts e.g. personal loans, finance and credit card payments. It's going to hit people hard. I fear for what that means for the country. The only thing I would add, and I know this seems to be a bone of contention for some on here, but we're not going to be anywhere near overcoming or preventing that until we get our daily death rates down. It goes hand in hand.
     
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    It certainly sticks in the head and you remember .
    The other time was 1979 .It wipes you out..
    A lot of people mistake a 3 day bug for it but you certainly know when you've had it
     
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