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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Feb 25, 2020.

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Boris...

  1. should completely lock us down immediately and fook up all our Christmas'

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  2. let the bodies stack high

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  3. lock us down from the 29th to fook up Treble's plans

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  1. HRH Custard VC

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    See, now my mind questions what you say, you state that 'weasel' Hancock was woefully unprepared for this, but how would you have expected him to be prepared for it, the whole of Europe were unprepared for this, not just Hancock, it sounds as though you are just casting a political sword, rather than wanting to guage the failings fairly.

    Note that I have acknowledged failings.

    You only have to look at South Korea for evidence of Europe's including the UK under that geographical umbrella of failings. You might say, but, but China, yeah but the world allowed China to produce half of the world's PPE. Sorry what was that, Germany, you ask, but again, they withheld all PPE for a period of two weeks, until the EU brought them back into check.

    Yeah, I know the 'Tories' and people will nit pick holes in my logic, but how does it help the crisis, we were ALL to blame.

    We failed the NHS, we failed our manufacturing industry for the want of everything Chinese, even Germany left us behind, for our want of everything via EU freedom of movement, that very movement that has now killed thousands up on thousands of people, not just in the UK, but Spain, Italy, the list is endless, the consequence of a free market, that we all freely participated in. We ALL failed to act sooner.
     
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  3. Star of David Bardsley

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    Macron’s speech the other day was a refreshing change. There have been some excellent examples of political leadership (not Macron) and lack of leadership from this whole thing.
     
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    Does a refreshing speech bring back their dead, remind me how many lives they have lost so far?

    They failed like the rest of us, but at least Macron makes you feel better, but then you haven't lost a loved one, like thousands of other French families.
     
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    That’s bollocks. He asked her a straight question and she just started reeling out a pre prepared load of irrelevant jarg, so he asked her again, and she avoided the question again, so he tried again and she started laughing.

    Given the question was ‘have 4,000 elderly people died in care homes or not?’ It wasn’t exactly an appropriate response.
     
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    I think that what it has clearly highlighted is that our obsession with celebrities, sports stars, etc.; not batting an eyelid at the exorbitant amount of money they take home whilst health workers, food industry workers and others that we depend on for our everyday existence sometimes just about manage to get by. I hope that once the worst of this has passed there is a complete re-evaluation of our society as a whole.
     
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    It's still not funny though mate, I assume she knew what the topic was about, if so, seeing the article is irrelevant, you do not laugh or smirk at any point, over such a serious topic, when you are a minister or person of responsibility for aiding a crisis.
     
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    I would like to see all this bring about those changes, but if I'm being perfectly honest and up front, I fear we live in a greedy society where humans think of themselves first, you need look no further than bog roll for the answers of how sadly nothing will change.
     
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    Some things will change though mate ... I will continue using the wholesaler providing my fruit & veg and the local butcher that we've been able to source meat from. Overall the supermarkets are cheaper (possibly not than the wholesaler tbf) but they have both provided life lines during this and I will not forget that. My mindset has undertaken a shift and I'm pretty sure others will have too.
     
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    Exactly this. It's not football players, bankers or hedge fund managers that make our lives comfortable; its NHS staff obviously, but also road sweepers, supermarket workers, postmen, bus drivers etc. All the people who, until very recently, society has valued least.
     
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    This is one of the good stories that has come out of this tragic event.
     
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    Just being reported that a quarter of Covid related deaths in Scotland have been in care homes ...
     
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    If I’m totally honest I think it’s wishful thinking that this will cause some huge shift in how people view certain jobs or inequality in society.

    Once we are back to normality a lot of this will be quickly forgotten and people will return to shopping in the most convenient and/or cheap way possible. People will be more concerned with their own jobs and positions than of those in the jobs being mentioned.

    I’m sure there will be a level of gratitude that lingers on into the next couple of years that may spark a slightly higher level of social conscience but will it be a monumental change in the direction of the country and people’s mentality? I’m not so sure.
     
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    I hate to say this, but we are still allowing the bankers control, even during this crisis. They have sought to have a cashless society probably getting on for a decade now. I'm aware of some of the underhand tactics that have been applied in the past, regarding the use of cards. Have you noticed how quickly the card limit was upped on contactless, and how supermarkets have asked customers not to use cash. Yes it serves a good purpose at the moment, but will these implementations be reversed once this is all over, I doubt it. Hence it's another aspect of control we have given to bankers, some may say a minor one, but an important one nonetheless. How long before we are like China, where we have to show the green for all clear on our phone apps, allowing access to places. Some worrying trends appearing, and they all give the government more control, and certainly the government in this country at present, favours those wealthy we are here discussing, once you scratch at the fabric.
     
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    It's absolutely vital that governments in the democratic world take back control of their economies from banks, multi nationals, and venture capitalists. The role of banks and institutions is to serve the wider economy, and the purpose of the free market is to serve the people. Currently we have all that arse about face, and the collapse of the world's banking system in 2008 has somehow shifted the balance of power even further in the bank's favour.
     
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    I think what played a major part in the worlds banking system having economical control, was digitalisation. Even the banks doing all the testing for stuff before it's put out to the consumers, the banks even boast about this in various ways. There is only one reason banks test new ideas in the digital world, because every new rung on the ladder is more control on our daily lives, and that equates to more power to them.
     
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    There is, as always, a solution. This man may hold the key...

     
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    Invest in cryptocurrency bro :emoticon-0164-cash:
     
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    They've certainly used digital technology to increase their power. But really, the banks have got themselves into a seemingly unassailable position - having very recently crashed the world's economy - because politicians have been complicit in allowing them to get away with it.
     
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