Coronavirus

aye, and the other side of the coin, people in droves looking for anything to attack, collateral damage and casualties be damned. Both are loud ****bag minorities yet they have all of the visibility one way or the other. It's like they are having their own little war and the media have joined in and picked sides

Meanwhile we want to work and pay our bills, have a pint and watch some football, if lucky (these days) you get your bag emptied and sleep somewhat well.

I honestly do wonder if the wars of the 20th century really did rob society of the best of us

 

So it appears the UK have decided to massage the death figures by only including those where the family have given permission for the death to be included.

 

Did seem a bit of an anomaly how small the number was yesterday but anomalies do happen. Is this implying this has been the case from the start?

 

well tbf that only said that the 24hr rolling total may not be up to date due to awaiting consent .however the late arrival of Englands stats yesterday does seem a tad suspicious to say the least .

 

he did imply it has always been that way .

 

Since when did ‘consent’ become a thing for inclusion into nameless statistics?

I don’t remember anyone asking for my ‘consent’ to be added to the list of 1.5m quoted figure for the vulnerable.

If true, this is horseshit and a managed manipulation that will skew the reality that is being portrayed.

China though......

 

****. Just checked my stocks and shares isa. Down about 5k since this **** started

 

Grim. Doubt we’ll ever know the true extent of deaths directly and indirectly from this.

 

Get yourself up to North London mate. All the little street punks are out running their missions as far as I can see.

 

I thought he had moved to the other side of the Thames now.

 

only way is when it finishes compare deaths for same period over say last 5 years & compare to this year . The resulting figure won't be fully accurate but gives best estimate of overall cost in lives .

 

I don't believe this. Divulging figures does not indicate who the person was, so I see no credibility in wanting to leave them out. However, I do see credibility in wanting to ensure the death was as a result of COVID-19 which might take longer to ascertain as we also have to be sure we are not adding deaths to the list, that were not as a result of the virus.

 

This is a good summary of how America will be hit harder than necessary by the virus because they elected a moron to be their President.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/presidents-character-unequal-task/608743/

 

I'm really not sure what is going on but it's now confirmed that Public Health England have changed to a new reporting system.

 

2 points on that
A) fail to see the point as it was just a number with no identifying details
B) At the very least they should have announced the change in the way the figures are collated prior to releasing the figures as that just stinks .

 

In addition, the consent angle is utter nonsense anyway. The dead don’t have any rights under GDPR or anything else.

 

From the 'la Repubblica' today, serious fines and prison sentences if you do not comply with controls;

Gabrielli (Police Chief) also spoke of checks carried out every day by the police: "Until March 24 - he reported - we checked two and a half million people and detected 110 thousand incorrect behaviors sanctioned with article 650 of the penal code". The sanctions imposed so far, the prefect recalled, will amount to a fine of 200 euros. A sanction updated by the government and specific for those who have not complied with the quarantine, both mandatory and voluntary, "is that which refers to article 260 of the health laws and provides for the arrest from 3 to 18 months and an administrative sanction from 500 to 5000 euros ".

 

This is the difference...

You want to impose your views on me and my family, and you will end up supporting those who propose that this be done by force, if necessary.

I, on the other hand, am quite prepared for you to do to yourself and to your body, or to permit others to do to you, whatever you consent to. As a free man, I allow you that freedom of choice.

The fact that you believe that yours is the more moral stance to adopt, and that you congratulate yourself in trying to demean my choice, makes your thinking all the more deplorable.

It is the thinking and beliefs of a Nazi.

 

This will be merely the tip of the iceberg.