Coronavirus

Some things never change

Merely making a point about why Italy is different situation to every other European country in terms of outbreak, only to have Stan want to bicker over every little part not relative to why Italy is different, waste of time W

 

Only someone with a stick up his arse would think he knows when someone else has a stick up his arse #speakingfromexperience

 

So, you DO have a stick up your arse?

I tend to have it up my arse from the hours of 9-16 and then it dislodges itself and I can take a joke.

 

Were you aware that the Soviet Union moved all of it’s heavy industry East of the Ural Mountains in 1941/2, all while massively increased production of tanks, aircraft, trucks etc.? Was that a triumph of capitalism too?

 

Mine never comes out

 

Have you not met Sisu before?

 

Shall we add the human misery into that equation m8. I noticed you kinda left that bit out
lets not forget the US was feeding their troops and sending them trucks

It's not the miracle you suggest, merely geography, Russia was so large and so populated.

No mention of the dead though, everything was taken but so many people were left behind in the path of the Germans, intentionally

and I wasn't even talking capitalism v socialism, that was Toby who got offended by the fact that capitalism has had one fortunate benefit at this time. That was all ffs

 

Isn’t it a bit early into self isolation to be shoving sticks up ones arse? I’d hope I’ve got at least a couple of weeks before I get bored enough to give that a try...

 

Better hope there is no lube shortage

 

Yeah, I wasn't intending to sing the praises of Joe Stalin. Just questioning your assertion that only capitalism can facilitate a manufacturing industry.

 

A mixed economy has been the backbone of western liberal democracies for over a century. Think this has shown how health (and possibly transport) should be state-run though. And I can't see how a state-run car manufacturer could not switch to making respirators as quickly as any private one. And they'd probably make less fuss than Elon Musk about doing it as well.

 

'Ad hom', one of Sebastian Gorka's favourite phrases. Who had that in Sisu's return Bingo?

 

Where did I assert that?

I'll take 'things that never happened' for £1000 bob

 

Some ****ers now have a problem with those who have been told to stay home from work.

 

Elaborate?

 

We sent a convoy to them as well, don't forget (though it was mainly destroyed by the Nazis). But mate, I distinctly remember you some years back, before you were enticed by the alt-right from your then pro-Russian haven, stating in huge, enormous capital letters (complete with several exclamation marks and emojis) that the Soviets won WWII whilst Britain and the US stood by in safety and watched. Was you in a different state then, or now?

 

I dont even want to get into this. I didnt start it, and I want out

I am centre left. I also believe that a political spectrum is essential. I want socialists pushing against capitalists, and capitalists pushing against socialists, because for it to go to one or the other extreme is NOT GOOD.

The best we've managed so far (because abject poverty is at its lowest ever) is capitalist markets that end up paying for socialist policies. That's pretty much how Finland actually pays for its socialist policies. If it were not so, there is no fookin way Finland could fund its massive government and and healthcare bureaucracy and pay for free education, free public transport and child care for single mothers and so on.

You need to create wealth to spread it m8

Caveat: yes it's certainly not perfect and the human condition be it socialism or capitalism, is nepotism and corruption and that is not going to change any time soon, unfortunately but it's still worth trying to change it

anti corruption needs to become a culture, it will never work the way we are trying to address it now

 

No politics ffs!

 

I didnt start it m8, just clarifying my position

I am not rising to bait either