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The 111 system at the NHS is a disaster
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Its always been a disaster. A crisis won't make it work better.
They just read generic questions, and then say go to hospital just to be sure.*
Not worth the paper its printed on.



*before the outbreak
 
This is not a time to be flippant or to joke for we are facing a monumental crisis with potentially a great many deaths. For the first time in my life I realise what it is like for a soldier going into action and wondering whether he will survive. Then there are those who lived through the blitz in Southampton not knowing when they went to bed whether they would be alive in the morning and the feared invasion following the fall of Dunkirk. My mother lost a great many of her family in WW1 and to the flu epidemic that followed it.

I will admit to a certain degree of fear at this time which is why the very lovely Mrs Godders:emoticon-0115-inlov and I are being careful and have self isolated. We have very good friends and neighbours and also our daughters to keep an eye on us. There are lots of very elderly people who don't so if you are young and fit and are able to support an elderly neighbour, especially someone living alone, please do. Remember these are the very people who won't be able to order on line as they are least likely to be on the internet or have a car to nip to the shops in or the money to stockpile or a credit card.

I am just hoping that the very lovely Mrs Godders:emoticon-0115-inlov and my friends and family survive this awful pandemic.


It’s always time to be flippant and make jokes. The tougher things get, the more true that becomes.
 
This is not a time to be flippant or to joke for we are facing a monumental crisis with potentially a great many deaths. For the first time in my life I realise what it is like for a soldier going into action and wondering whether he will survive. Then there are those who lived through the blitz in Southampton not knowing when they went to bed whether they would be alive in the morning and the feared invasion following the fall of Dunkirk. My mother lost a great many of her family in WW1 and to the flu epidemic that followed it.

I will admit to a certain degree of fear at this time which is why the very lovely Mrs Godders:emoticon-0115-inlov and I are being careful and have self isolated. We have very good friends and neighbours and also our daughters to keep an eye on us. There are lots of very elderly people who don't so if you are young and fit and are able to support an elderly neighbour, especially someone living alone, please do. Remember these are the very people who won't be able to order on line as they are least likely to be on the internet or have a car to nip to the shops in or the money to stockpile or a credit card.

I am just hoping that the very lovely Mrs Godders:emoticon-0115-inlov and my friends and family survive this awful pandemic.

Take care the both of you.
 
I have been down with a dose of what the NHS think is seasonal flu for the past week but I have had all the symptoms of Coronavirus with the most horrid sore throat, a raging fever and a chronic chest infection that is still hanging around. I called 111 but was just told to self-isolate. No offer of help and it took 5 attempts to even get through. I decided to stay in bed until the worst of it was over and stopped anyone coming to the house.

I have now decided that I will suspend my business until further notice because there's no way of knowing whether I have had the Coronavirus. I am not taking the risk of passing this on to anyone, and I am not chancing catching it if what I had wasn't the virus. The 111 system at the NHS is a disaster with the woman I spoke to clearly reading out the questions from a crib sheet.

I would advise anyone who is over 60 to take great care out there and avoid close contact with people as much as possible because what I have had the past week is enough to knock anyone over. I have used 4 Ventolin and a bucket of pain killers in a week just trying to subdue this and some might well not get through it. I feel for anyone who is hit with what I have had so go careful, very careful.

Be safe everyone, and wishing all of you the very safest journey over the coming months.
So sorry to hear that Kaito. I’m not surprised 111 is struggling, the sheer lack of resources in this kind of situation the NHS has is appalling.

All the very best, let’s hope you feel better soon.
 
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Where are you based Kaito and if it's not a rude question how old are you?..glad the see that you are over the worst of it...:)
Also are you a registered asthmatic and how did you manage to get 4 Ventolin inhalers (I have just the one) will a preventative inhaler work?
Edit: Sorry mate another query did you have a flu jab?

I'm in Warsash and I'm in my mid-60's. Missed the flu jab this year due to being a dumb-arse and have had asthma but not for a few years. I bought a load of Ventolin from there because of hay fever this year and hardly ever go to the doctor. If you are asthmatic buy yourself a Nebuliser while you are able to.

https://www.ukmeds.co.uk/ventolin

You have to do a questionnaire but it's simple enough that I could do it.

All the best.
 
I'm in Warsash and I'm in my mid-60's. Missed the flu jab this year due to being a dumb-arse and have had asthma but not for a few years. I bought a load of Ventolin from there because of hay fever this year and hardly ever go to the doctor. If you are asthmatic buy yourself a Nebuliser while you are able to.

https://www.ukmeds.co.uk/ventolin

You have to do a questionnaire but it's simple enough that I could do it.

All the best.

Cheers for the feedback Kaits, I'm the same as you in that I haven't suffered asthma for a few years but I keep a spare inhaler. I've requested a brown preventative inhaler and I had a flu jab due to being type 2 although my condition is in remission due to losing weight eating well and exercising.
Will certainly take your advise on the Nebuliser.

Hope your chest gets better and you can carry on your life relatively normally.
 
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Didn't realise that you could purchase a nebuliser, might have to grab one of them myself.


Hope you're feeling better soon Kaito.
 
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Found a good post on the spurs board that summaries how a lot of us feel. Thought it was worth a re-post.
If a game is poised at 5-0, with the losing team down to 10 men, with 5 minutes left and the floodlights go out, the game is abandoned and replayed as if the abandoned game never happened. There's no authority that I can think of for saying..."Well this would have been the result, so we'll not bother finishing the game".

It might be fair and fine for Liverpool to be declared winners but I can't see Norwich, Villa and Bournemouth accepting relegation for them based on their current positions, especially as Villa have a game in hand over Watford, who are 2 points above them. Also, Sheff Utd. would be 5th if they were to win their 29th game, That could be a CL place gone. If you can't be relegated because the season wasn't completed, in my opinion, you can't be awarded the league either. The only analagous situation is cancelling the game.

If there's no existing authority for a decision and it's not applied equitably across the piece, it's a sham and such a decision would be in trouble if taken to the CAS by a complaining club, affected to their detriment. This is especially so if other countries leagues came to differing decisions and abandoned their seasons.

The season is either played out to a conclusion or it should be voided ab initio.
 
Found a good post on the spurs board that summaries how a lot of us feel. Thought it was worth a re-post.
If a game is poised at 5-0, with the losing team down to 10 men, with 5 minutes left and the floodlights go out, the game is abandoned and replayed as if the abandoned game never happened. There's no authority that I can think of for saying..."Well this would have been the result, so we'll not bother finishing the game".

It might be fair and fine for Liverpool to be declared winners but I can't see Norwich, Villa and Bournemouth accepting relegation for them based on their current positions, especially as Villa have a game in hand over Watford, who are 2 points above them. Also, Sheff Utd. would be 5th if they were to win their 29th game, That could be a CL place gone. If you can't be relegated because the season wasn't completed, in my opinion, you can't be awarded the league either. The only analagous situation is cancelling the game.

If there's no existing authority for a decision and it's not applied equitably across the piece, it's a sham and such a decision would be in trouble if taken to the CAS by a complaining club, affected to their detriment. This is especially so if other countries leagues came to differing decisions and abandoned their seasons.

The season is either played out to a conclusion or it should be voided ab initio.

All the clubs are signed up to the rules of the competition before the season starts and if all matches are not completed then as I said yesterday it is fantasy football.
 
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