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Is the ultimate breakdown of society as we know it? I may be a tad Casandra-like, but if you take things to their ultimate conclusion, things such as sport, of any kind, and tourism, etc are seen as unnecessary fripperies that we can do without. In the ultimate end game, the Amazonian indians/indingenous tribes may be the winners in this, as they are entirely self-sufficient, with no need for any outside contact. Why will anyone need to comunicate with anyone else, unless they will gain something from it?

On the plus side, Pompey may never leave League One, until the end of time. So not all bad, then
 
Ah well. The Bath half-marathon, with over 11,000 runners coughing and spluttering over each other, is still taking place tomorrow.

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You lot are worried......there’s talk here in Aussie that they too might suspend flights in and out. Which could mean we can’t get home!! Watch this space should in interesting.......
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-14...ime-style-mobilisation-to-combat-coronavirus/

Suggestion that people of 70+ to be quarantined for 4 months. I'm 70 this year and I can tell you now it ain't going to happen. I'd do things if it was necessary for safety of others, but that isn't the case. Tosh.
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It is necessary for the safety of others, too. The fewer people who need medical treatment at any given time, the more likely it is that people will actually be capable of getting treatment, rather than dying unattended in the hallway of overwhelmed hospitals.
 
I've talked around it, but we're there now: this isn't an inconvenience, this isn't a supercharged flu. If you weren't aware for 1941, this is the single most important moment any of us will face (I hope). It will fundamentally reorder civilization as we know it for the next year or more, to a degree that hasn't been the case even through most wars.This is the ****ing first thing on all of our epitaphs.

An almost unfathomable number of people will die, and whether any of us individually or the people we care about survive depends on whether we actively seek to protect the people that matter to us, to prevent this from hitting like a freight train. If you're older, take precautions to avoid contact; if you're younger, recognize that even if we're fine, we're vectors for people who won't be fine.

This is the moment that most of us will remember and be remembered for. **** fatalism: we will never do anything more important than our actions over the next couple months. And it's possible that our actions are overwhelmed by inaction, but that's just how things go. Do the most you can; treat this as the most serious event of your adult life, and hope that everyone else does likewise.
 
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Schad said:
It is necessary for the safety of others, too. The fewer people who need medical treatment at any given time, the more likely it is that people will actually be capable of getting treatment, rather than dying unattended in the hallway of overwhelmed hospitals.
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This is the messaging we’re getting here right now. Especially in small countries the battle is to monitor, control, slow and contain. Otherwise very quickly, with a shortage of ICU beds it becomes “who do we treat and who dies”. That’s not to mention the growing affect on healthcare workers who will soon be at their limits if spread is unchecked. We’re all on lockdown now with no flights in and out. The government just started a hotline to report your employer if you feel that you’re nonessential personnel pressured to come to work. We’re supposed to be visiting family in America in June but no idea if that will happen.
 
The good thing is that Kuwait is a pretty good place to be stuck right now. Everywhere delivers to your house, my salary has been underwritten by the government and there’s a wide scale testing program that’s starting with anyone who came into the country around the time of the first case. Only real concern is how long this all lasts.
 
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This is the messaging we’re getting here right now. Especially in small countries the battle is to monitor, control, slow and contain. Otherwise very quickly, with a shortage of ICU beds it becomes “who do we treat and who dies”. That’s not to mention the growing affect on healthcare workers who will soon be at their limits if spread is unchecked. We’re all on lockdown now with no flights in and out. The government just started a hotline to report your employer if you feel that you’re nonessential personnel pressured to come to work. We’re supposed to be visiting family in America in June but no idea if that will happen.
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Kuwait is handling it far better than the US, honestly. Take care of yourself, but I'd imagine that international travel come June will be about nil. Head down, head up and all that.
 
Schad said:
Kuwait is handling it far better than the US, honestly. Take care of yourself, but I'd imagine that international travel come June will be about nil. Head down, head up and all that.
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Yeah these ‘socialist’ dictatorships have their pluses sometimes. We were at 104 cases last week with 3 of them in ICU. We’re now at 97 active and have 6 recoveries. Of course it will get worse over the next two weeks because they’re testing a huge number of people this week.

The only upside for me is that home in America is a tiny town of about 1000 people in the middle of New Mexico. I don’t think they’ll be overrun but there’s also no way I’ll be able to get any additional insurance for my daughter and I. I’m trying to hold onto that trip for hope’s sake but I know it’s unlikely.
 
SaintInKuwait said:
The only upside for me is that home in America is a tiny town of about 1000 people in the middle of New Mexico. I don’t think they’ll be overrun but there’s also no way I’ll be able to get any additional insurance for my daughter and I. I’m trying to hold onto that trip for hope’s sake but I know it’s unlikely.
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I'm in the last province of Canada without a positive case. At this point, we're all in mitigation mode; it hasn't gotten here, but it will: But there aren't safe places at this point; and I'd imagine that the locale in NM is the same. I'm minimizing travel now, and will be in effective self-quarantine soon. There are just too many vulnerable people to do otherwise.

This is going to be a rough period for everyone. As tough as it is not to see loved ones, we're all going to have to maintain discipline, because everything rests on our ability to minimize transmission of the disease.
 
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fran-MLs little camera said:
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-14...ime-style-mobilisation-to-combat-coronavirus/

Suggestion that people of 70+ to be quarantined for 4 months. I'm 70 this year and I can tell you now it ain't going to happen. I'd do things if it was necessary for safety of others, but that isn't the case. Tosh.
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As another in that age bracket, I can't decide whether to support or condemn you! That's the level of confusion we are all in. If I find myself asking "Do you think I should go to ..." one more time I think I'll do everyone a favour and top myself.

Trying to organise a funeral at the moment for an old friend. Will it happen? Should it happen? Will it be allowed to happen? AAAAARRRRGGGH!
 
My Nan is in the Canary Islands due to fly back a week tomorrow.
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
Most places will be closed and I have already decided against going on holiday, but I cannot see how going for a walk outside will be a risk for me or anyone else. May be different in a city, but I could walk around here and scarcely pass anyone.
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Depends on how much social distancing you can manage.

My parents are 72 and 61 respectively; my grandparents are 95 and 86. My parents have 22 acres of land, and can gallivant around it with little chance of being exposed to another human being; my grandparents are in a suburban area and reliant on other people. My parents can self-segregate with a little help and have a good chance of avoiding infection; my grandparents cannot. The key is breaking the chain before it's one link from them.
 
SaintInKuwait said:
Yeah these ‘socialist’ dictatorships have their pluses sometimes. We were at 104 cases last week with 3 of them in ICU. We’re now at 97 active and have 6 recoveries. Of course it will get worse over the next two weeks because they’re testing a huge number of people this week.

The only upside for me is that home in America is a tiny town of about 1000 people in the middle of New Mexico. I don’t think they’ll be overrun but there’s also no way I’ll be able to get any additional insurance for my daughter and I. I’m trying to hold onto that trip for hope’s sake but I know it’s unlikely.
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Hope that works out for you and your family SiK.....I'm fascinated how you came to be a Saints supporter?
 
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