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[Treble]

I don't think you can blame any government for ordinary people's selfish behaviour.

There can be a cultural shift imo and there was during those Tory years. I accept though that the "Pull the ladder up, I'm alright Jack" attitude was there before but it was looked down upon in previous generations rather than something that was worn as a badge of honour in the 80's onwards.

 

[jaffaSlot]

**** off you'd do anything for all the jaffa cakes

You called?

 

[Willhoops]

You called?

Watch out Brb will add you to his museum dedicated to jaffa cakes and jaffa cake accessories

 

[brb]

There can be a cultural shift imo and there was during those Tory years. I accept though that the "Pull the ladder up, I'm alright Jack" attitude was there before but it was looked down upon in previous generations rather than something that was worn as a badge of honour in the 80's onwards.

We are all responsible for our own selfishness, including me, nor do I blame a government for that. I think we all need to take a hard look at ourselves, instead of trying to attach reasons to pass the blame.

 

[aberdude]

Yep. He was a pig headed ****ing dipstick. Typical of the ‘officer class’ of that period. He couldn’t grasp the fact that in the age of the machine gun, sheer weight of numbers wouldn’t cut it. You’d have thought he’d have realised this fairly early on, but nope, he sent over 250,000 men to their deaths. **** of the highest order and most definitely a War criminal.

He was a well educated man.... He would have known what he was doing.... He was a maniac that didn't give a fk for the soldiers who stupidly didn't tell him to go fk himself unless he shows them how its done first

 

[Tobes]

There can be a cultural shift imo and there was during those Tory years. I accept though that the "Pull the ladder up, I'm alright Jack" attitude was there before but it was looked down upon rather than something that was worn as a badge of honour in the 80's onwards.

There most definitely was, and it was two fold. Firstly the ‘yuppie’ tread on their heads if it earns you a quid or two attitude.

Then there was the start of the collapse of the local community. People generally used to stay close to their families, areas had genuine communities, with often generations of the same families all relatively close geographically. Then came Thatchers decimation of our manufacturing base and many had to get on Norman Tebbits bike. The populations of Cities like mine were massively reduced and the close communities largely died. I watched it happen with my own eyes, and then became part of it. Sad times.

 

[Treble]

We are all responsible for our own selfishness, including me, nor do I blame a government for that. I think we all need to take a hard look at ourselves, instead of trying to attach reasons to pass the blame.

Agree but the culture of 'community' or 'selfishness' is passed down from one generation to the next generation. It's much harder to say it's an individual responsibility when it's what wider society says is the norm to the next generation. You target the youth and you shift opinion. That's what we saw with the yuppy culture of the 80's and that's what we're seeing now with the climate change generation of today.

 

[Tobes]

He was a well educated man.... He would have known what he was doing.... He was a maniac that didn't give a fk for the soldiers who stupidly didn't tell him to go fk himself unless he shows them how its done first

He attended some decent educational establishments, but that doesn’t mean he was well educated......

He was in the Bullingdon club funnily enough.......

 

[brb]

Agree but the culture of 'community' or 'selfishness' is passed down from one generation to the next generation. It's much harder to say it's an individual responsibility when it's what wider society says is the norm to the next generation. You target the youth and you shift opinion. That's what we saw with the yuppy culture of the 80's and that's what we're seeing now with the climate change generation of today.

I'm not doubting anything you are saying, I just feel we are ALL responsible for our own behaviour.

 

[Treble]

I'm not doubting anything you are saying, I just feel we are ALL responsible for our own behaviour.

Aye true that

 

[aberdude]

There most definitely was, and it was two fold. Firstly the ‘yuppie’ thread on their heads if it earns you a quid or two attitude.

Then there was the start of the collapse of the local community. People generally used to stay close to their families, areas had genuine communities, with often generations of the same families all relatively close geographically. Then came Thatchers decimation of our manufacturing base and many had to get on Norman Tebbits bike. The populations of Cities like mine were massively reduced and the close communities largely died. I watched it happen with my own eyes, and then became part of it. Sad times.

I grew up with thatcher part of the reason I fking hate tory scum police and authorities today.......... Made me a right nasty twat it did..... Luckily cannabis helps with rage or I would be living like Buddha in a ten foot cell.....guess the song reference?

 

[Treble]

I grew up with thatcher part of the reason I fking hate tory scum police and authorities today.......... Made me a right nasty twat it did..... Luckily cannabis helps with rage or I would be living like Buddha in a ten foot cell.....guess the song reference?

If only Maggie had toked a zoot.

 

[aberdude]

He attended some decent educational establishments, but that doesn’t mean he was well educated......

He was in the Bullingdon club funnily enough.......

I see your point he didn't need an education he was destined for big things anyway.......very Boris like

 

[aberdude]

If only Maggie had toked a zoot.

Yep imagine all the people living life in peace..... I can but that's a pipe dream looking at the morons who live around me.

Saying that if she did have a heart we wouldn't have had a track like the exploited wrote called Maggie......lyrical genius twas

 

[Libby]

Over a thousand dead now in Italy.

 

[Edelman]

There most definitely was, and it was two fold. Firstly the ‘yuppie’ tread on their heads if it earns you a quid or two attitude.

Then there was the start of the collapse of the local community. People generally used to stay close to their families, areas had genuine communities, with often generations of the same families all relatively close geographically. Then came Thatchers decimation of our manufacturing base and many had to get on Norman Tebbits bike. The populations of Cities like mine were massively reduced and the close communities largely died. I watched it happen with my own eyes, and then became part of it. Sad times.

I've lived in my house now for 20 years .
When I moved in most of the neighbours where 60 and above .
They all talked to you or said hello .
Most of them have now died and younger people have moved in .
They arent bad people but they dont have time to say hello or talk !
Its defo a different society nowadays .

 

[FosseFilberto]

The British blame the incumbent government to such a level that it is almost hysterical. I know so many who genuinely, so thoroughly, believe that Boris Johnson himself makes every single local decision that affects their lives.
And some of the misinformation being spread around especially Facebook has started to make me feel physically sick, a very common one is stating that the British aren't really doing anything - while our European neighbors are making drastic decisions that make them seem more socially aware.

It's bollocks man, the response from most nations has been literally - TODAY, and those responses have been few and far between, there's still barely any financial announcements, unlike in the UK were financial benefits have been announced to staff who may be laid off. Here, people have no idea what's happening.

You can complain about the announcements, but they've been made, unlike so many places where the governments have done absolutely nothing at all.

Yeah but Boris and the Tories are still proper ****s mind

 

[aberdude]

Changing the subject for a sec.... Listening to the Joe rogen experience 1284 Graham hancock chat at the moment..... Right up my street.

Anyway back to the thread sorry for that...

 

[Archers Road]

I grew up with thatcher part of the reason I fking hate tory scum police and authorities today.......... Made me a right nasty twat it did..... Luckily cannabis helps with rage or I would be living like Buddha in a ten foot cell.....guess the song reference?

This is the story of the Hurricane
And it won't be over til they clear his name
And give him back the time he's done.
Caught in a prison cell but one
Time, he coulda been the champion of the Worl..d

 

[Treble]

I've lived in my house now for 20 years .
When I moved in most of the neighbours where 60 and above .
They all talked to you or said hello .
Most of them have now died and younger people have moved in .
They arent bad people but they dont have time to say hello or talk !
Its defo a different society nowadays .

Yeh but what drives that though? Like you say they're not bad people. It's the fact that everyone is work-focused. We have to be to aspire to achieve the things we in this country feel is a must... or even just the simple things your parents achieved like buying your own home. In that respect I don't blame people for the way they are.

It is worse in some places more than others. London being one great big example.

Is this the culture we see on the continent? I'm not so sure it is. Somewhere along the line we as a nation decided on a different set of priorities.