True. But I imagine they will still have to present their case to CAS won't they?
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Its mainly a written presentation of the existing evidence which is then pored over by CAS & there is then a hearing with lawyers which is a 1 day hearing apart from exceptional circumstances iirc .
Part of the reason for the ban was that they refused to cooperate with the investigation. If they have "irrefutable evidence" now, why didn't they present it at the appropriate time? This in itself is a sign of arrogance or guilt, or both, and the ban should be upheld for that alone, imo.
Like others, I think their defiance is a bluff - born of outrage that anyone dares to interfere with them. This is an expected attitude from people who go through life getting exactly what they want all the time and are unused to being thwarted.
Their usual method is just to buy off people who oppose them - allegedly.
I do wonder whether UEFA has the balls to stand up to them, as in the past it's hardly shown itself to be the incorruptible institution it ought to be.
Given that the entire investigation was based on selective stolen emails then their reticence to cooperate was understandable from a legal perspective.
If I was accused of something based on incomplete evidence, I'd be anxious to show the full picture as soon as possible in order to exonerate myself.
Tbh, I don't trust any of the parties involved here.
Exactly.
"Oh, that stolen video of me murdering someone is completely selective. The full video I have shows it was completely innocent."
"Would you like to share that video with us?"
"Absolutely not. Plus your evidence of my crimes has completely biased your investigation."
Happens all the time in criminal law too, unfortunately. Any slight deviation from process and the defence will use it to case doubt on the continuity of the evidence gathered. They also try to highlight how it damages the credibility of the case.
The difference is they are under an obligation to fully co operate with the investigatory body unlike in a criminal case - see Suns (Chinese swimmer) 7 year ban from CAS for non co operation with doping officers .
I don't disagree. I am just saying that finding a technicality to get the case thrown out is very common.
oh don't get me wrong City will have teams of lawyers poring over the EUFA evidence looking for flaws just hope EUFA have done it by the book as they were determined top get City having been
a) clearly misled by City
b) The PSG fiasco & the embarassment that caused .
Part of the reason for the ban was that they refused to cooperate with the investigation. If they have "irrefutable evidence" now, why didn't they present it at the appropriate time? This in itself is a sign of arrogance or guilt, or both, and the ban should be upheld for that alone, imo.
Like others, I think their defiance is a bluff - born of outrage that anyone dares to interfere with them. This is an expected attitude from people who go through life getting exactly what they want all the time and are unused to being thwarted.
Their usual method is just to buy off people who oppose them - allegedly
I do wonder whether UEFA has the balls to stand up to them, as in the past it's hardly shown itself to be the incorruptible institution it ought to be.
I think part of Citys argument is that the evidence they submitted wasn't even looked at and factored into the decision and that the outcome was decided before investigation complete. Didn't they mention in one of their statements about the decision being made solely on the hacked emails?
Not sure how that ties up with their lack of cooperation but it's all conjecture at the moment. As you allude to in a later post I'm not sure I trust any of them.
Yeah he is a bad loser - like really badI cant stand him mate.
Hate bad losers and hes one of the worst in the business.
Glad he's a washed up manager at a bang average team. Fully deserves it.
He is only ever nice about a defeat when it suits but Fergie was a bad loser so is Pep (for me Pep is the worst because at least the other two were honest about their **** housry lol - Pep is just slimy) it has to be said Klopp is not the best when he loses but he is a level below those mentioned imho
Suppose it’s a prerequisite for the job
Yep I can see that but as I say never bothered me but I do work with kids a lot and when they act like that it amuses me lol
Watching Efc v Chelsea, bet Everton don't play as bad against us, they are really crap today.
Was just coming on to ask that very question
How bad was the defending on that 3rd goal ?
Good luck to Manchester City this afternoon. Let's all hope they give United a good thrashing. Not that it will impact on the title race!!
Well UEFA had the balls to deal with a club far mightier than City. AC Milan!!Part of the reason for the ban was that they refused to cooperate with the investigation. If they have "irrefutable evidence" now, why didn't they present it at the appropriate time? This in itself is a sign of arrogance or guilt, or both, and the ban should be upheld for that alone, imo.
Like others, I think their defiance is a bluff - born of outrage that anyone dares to interfere with them. This is an expected attitude from people who go through life getting exactly what they want all the time and are unused to being thwarted.
Their usual method is just to buy off people who oppose them - allegedly
I do wonder whether UEFA has the balls to stand up to them, as in the past it's hardly shown itself to be the incorruptible institution it ought to be.