Match Day Thread Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

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Zanjinho said:
Can't help but think him saying this is more to do with Arsenal having won the PL but not the CL
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I saw the video, merson showed himself up talking absolute **** tbh. Same as ever really. <laugh>
 
Zanjinho said:
Agreed.
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Had this discussion last year I think. For me it’s the CL all the way - always has been
I have for years stated I don’t think it should be open to 2nd and below - it should be the pinnacle imho
For me the PL is the most consistent club wins (not the best)
CL should be the reward that comes afterwards - just an opinion though :)
 
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Bumps said:
Had this discussion last year I think. For me it’s the CL all the way - always has been
I have for years stated I don’t think it should be open to 2nd and below - it should be the pinnacle imho
For me the PL is the most consistent club wins (not the best)
CL should be the reward that comes afterwards - just an opinion though :)
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The best team doesn't always win the CL; Porto in 2004, us in 2005...

Most most consistent suggests it's a good team; able to cover each over when players inevitably have an off day. Man Utd won the title a couple of times when they didn't have the best players but were the best team. Leicester are a good example too; they were clearly the best team but didn't have the best players.

As Sir Bill Shanks said, the league is the bread & butter and the trophy we most want.
 
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Zanjinho said:
The best team doesn't always win the CL; Porto in 2004, us in 2005...

Most most consistent suggests it's a good team; able to cover each over when players inevitably have an off day. Man Utd won the title a couple of times when they didn't have the best players but were the best team. Leicester are a good example too; they were clearly the best team but didn't have the best players.

As Sir Bill Shanks said, the league is the bread & butter and the trophy we most want.
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Sorry I didn’t mean best team wins CL not sure I said that just meant the CL should be the reward after you have won your domestic league imho

However I do see winning the CL as a greater honour than winning the domestic title

I understand the arguments for and against all,
Some say it’s easier to win the CL
I don’t agree
You have to face different styles of play conquer the away games and away goals rule and it runs through the season
I think there is usually more wiggle room in winning the domestic title
Generally once into knockout phases in CL one poor night and BOOM your gone
Plus I love that it is the Final game of the season
I want to be there again :)

I don’t agree Leicester were BEST team - I know I am in the minority but I think there is a massive difference between best and most consistent where as others believe the two are the same - IF we win the title I am certain this discussion will raise its head once again :)
 
Bumps said:
Sorry I didn’t mean best team wins CL not sure I said that just meant the CL should be the reward after you have won your domestic league imho

However I do see winning the CL as a greater honour than winning the domestic title

I understand the arguments for and against all,
Some say it’s easier to win the CL
I don’t agree
You have to face different styles of play conquer the away games and away goals rule and it runs through the season
I think there is usually more wiggle room in winning the domestic title
Generally once into knockout phases in CL one poor night and BOOM your gone
Plus I love that it is the Final game of the season
I want to be there again :)

I don’t agree Leicester were BEST team - I know I am in the minority but I think there is a massive difference between best and most consistent where as others believe the two are the same - IF we win the title I am certain this discussion will raise its head once again :)
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Leicester won the Prem. by ten points Bumps...............a very comfortable margin. They were the best team that season... [HASHTAG]#endof[/HASHTAG]
 
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Bumps said:
Sorry I didn’t mean best team wins CL not sure I said that just meant the CL should be the reward after you have won your domestic league imho

However I do see winning the CL as a greater honour than winning the domestic title

I understand the arguments for and against all,
Some say it’s easier to win the CL
I don’t agree
You have to face different styles of play conquer the away games and away goals rule and it runs through the season
I think there is usually more wiggle room in winning the domestic title
Generally once into knockout phases in CL one poor night and BOOM your gone
Plus I love that it is the Final game of the season
I want to be there again :)

I don’t agree Leicester were BEST team - I know I am in the minority but I think there is a massive difference between best and most consistent where as others believe the two are the same - IF we win the title I am certain this discussion will raise its head once again :)
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They clearly were the best team, they comfortably won the league. There is not argument there imo. There is room for argument for best players as that comes down to opinion.
 
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Bumps said:
Had this discussion last year I think. For me it’s the CL all the way - always has been
I have for years stated I don’t think it should be open to 2nd and below - it should be the pinnacle imho
For me the PL is the most consistent club wins (not the best)
CL should be the reward that comes afterwards - just an opinion though :)
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It's not about which is the most prestigious or most glamorous title - it's about how you measure the quality and consistency of your team over the season. The CL has some of the best teams in Europe in it, but there's only a handful of them at the same level as the top of the Prem, so any good team can win it with a bit of luck and determination, because you don't have to win that many games.
You can't ride your luck to the PL title, there are just too many games and too many variables. To my mind, the best team wins the league, no argument.

I should perhaps point out that by best I don't mean playing the "best" football, because that's clearly open to debate.
 
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@Zanjinho
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I did say imho and that I know I am in the minority. As much as I respect you guys you simply cannot tell me that the best team wins the league end of.
That is in your opinion
I believe the most consistent team wins the league end of - but that’s my opinion

If team X are competing for the title with team Y
Team X plays team Y a total of 6 times over the differing comps through the season
Team Y wins the 2 league games 4-1 and 5-1. Team Y also wins the other 4 games where the two meet comfortably
Team X however wins the league due to a patch where team Y had multiple injuries and they drew 3 games and lost 2 games

To me Team X are the most consistent but team Y are clearly better
Just an opinion

It is also my preference to win the CL over the Domestic title not comparing the two as comps :)

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well you can say it but I don’t have to listen lol and likewise vice versa :)
 
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