LESBOS RESURRECTION THREAD

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We did not vote to enter the E.U. ...... we voted to join the Common Market, and the people who voted to stay out, accepted the vote, and not behave as the remainders of today. It was called Democracy then. ...... We were conned and dragged into the newly formed E.U., Without the people having a vote at all. Was that Democracy. ....... I don't know how everything will turn out, but at least I will be free of unelected faceless people telling me what to do. ........ My Wife does enough of that ! ! ! ! ,
 
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Stereo said:
Yeah, but on the other hand all who wanted to remain were branded snowflakes. All very childish don't you think ?
I just wanted to be left alone.
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From my personal POV only those that couldn't accept a democratic vote were branded snowflakes. Not those who disliked the result but those who refused to accept it. But anyway, it's all over now and we must all get on with it together.

Are you saying you were personally targeted? If so, then yes that was childish.
 
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daimungeezer said:
From my personal POV only those that couldn't accept a democratic vote were branded snowflakes. Not those who disliked the result but those who refused to accept it. But anyway, it's all over now and we must all get on with it together.

Are you saying you were personally targeted? If so, then yes that was childish.
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No I wasn't personally targeted, I just found all the name calling and accusations quite childish considering what was at stake.
I just wanted it done as quick as possible once the result came in - for better or worse - just get on with it already.
I think the time it took is how a lot of the animosity built up.
 
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Matthew Bound Still Lurks said:
Ah yes the Guardian aka Owen Jones the moral compass of the country I was rather hoping that since Brexit he would have disappeared back into the ranks of the unimportant non entities but not obviously not
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He was recently on the Jeremy Vine morning programme on TV - this last week, I think.

My wife was watching it and she said “Oh, look - there’s that fella you don’t like....” <laugh>
 
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O dear

A year ago, did anyone look like they would come out of Brexit better than Leo Varadkar? Here was a leader of a small country on the fringe of the EU suddenly catapulted to its centre. He was the one pushed forward by Juncker, Barnier, Merkel and Macron, as they sought to leverage advantage from the tricky problem of the Irish border. Not only was Varadkar seen to be standing up for the Republic’s interest, but by driving a wedge between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom, he seemed to be setting himself up as the instigator of possible Irish reunification – he was drawing the issue away from the nationalists.

Last night, Varadkar resigned as Taoiseach after a humiliating general election defeat two weeks ago. Hardly any voters seemed interested in rewarding him for standing up for Ireland’s interests in the Brexit negotiations, and while Brexit seems to have rekindled the nationalists’ hope of Irish unity it wasn’t Varadkar and Fine Gael who prospered – it was the full-fat nationalists in the shape of Sinn Fein.

But the humiliation is not entirely over for Varadkar. For the moment, he stays on as caretaker leader until a government can be formed. In that capacity, it has fallen to him to negotiate the EU’s budget for the next seven years. These were never going to be easy negotiations given that the EU’s coffers have just been left with a Britain-sized hole. But if Varadkar was expecting any favours from the EU for his role in Brexit negotiations he has been left sorely disappointed. Ireland has been asked to pay more into the EU’s coffers while suffering sharp cuts both to payments for farmers under the Common Agricultural Policy and to infrastructure under EU cohesion funds. Varadkar has called the proposals ‘unacceptable’, but is unlikely to win any concessions given that Germany and a bundle of other Northern European ‘frugals’ are holding out strongly against any increased burden on them.

The sad thing is that Varadkar was exploited and now he has been hung out to dry. During the Brexit talks, he was drafted in to do the EU’s dirty work for it. The EU hit upon the issue of the Irish border as a device to try to trap the UK in EU regulations forever and Varadkar was used in order to help exaggerate the border issue. It never did make much sense why Britain would have to remain in full alignment with EU regulations purely to avoid a hard border in Ireland when Switzerland has a free-flowing border with several EU countries in spite of not being a member of the EU, the single market or the customs union. Even so, the EU nearly pulled off its trick. Had parliament voted for Theresa May’s deal – which even Boris and Jacob Rees-Mogg did at the third time of asking – the EU would now be rubbing its hands having neutralised the threat of a competitive, free-trading and deregulated Britain.


But the ruse failed, and with it, Varadkar’s stock has taken a horrible plunge. Let his fate serve as a warning to the leaders of other small EU countries – don’t expect any reward for acts of loyalty towards the EU’s leaders.

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swantastic said:
Quoted from an old boy elsewhere.


Look,,, I'm 71yrs old and I'm a rabid Brexiteer. I love Europe, but I hate the EU with a consuming passion (a contradiction in terms, but I'm sure you follow my drift?!). Having voted to join the "Common Market" in 1973, and then witnessing the destruction of our fishing industry (I was an Indentured Marine Engineer, employed by Boston Deep Sea in Lowestoft) I was left feeling an unbridled hatred for the burgeoning EU Institution.
Ted Heath & Harold Wilson sold their/our Country down the "EU river", Theresa May likewise (but even more under handedly, the bitch should be chained to a wall in The Tower!).
The French,,, our so called Neighbours & Friends,,, the very same Nation that the Allies liberated in 1945... at a HUGE cost,,, Having fought so gallantly to repeal the advancing Nazi Hordes in 1941, my arse! the French surrendered en masse,, without firing a single shot at their German Cousins,,, would you believe over 200,000 of them just rolled over and welcomed the Bosch across their border.
And to this day the French revere DeGaulle, General Charles DeGaulle,,, their hero of WW2,,, the General who was engaged in one tank battle (observing from a huge fortified bunker well out of range of the Panzer Cannon).
And what did the Gallant General do after the French surrendered the Tank battle,,,?
Why, he jumped on a RAF Plane and legged it to London, where he spent the next four years living off the fat of the land (at our expense) and earned his "hero" tag by broadcasting radio speeches (from the safety of the Whitehall Bunkers) to the French "Resistance" urging them to "continue the fight against the Bosch"!
That's one hell of a hero,,, to hero worship,,, innit?!
Then,,, following the slaughter of the Allies on the Normandy Beaches and the subsequent advance toward Paris, General Charles DeGaulle, DEMANDED that he be flown back to France so as he could march at the front of the Liberating Coloum into Paris... Wadda GUY! Wadda HERO!
And then pray, what did the hero General DeGaulle, do when the UK first applied to join, and made repeated requests to join, the "Common Market",,, did he welcome his friends and saviours with open arms,,,? No!
Completely the opposite in fact,,, DeGaulle stood to attention in the European Parliament, and, with the blood of thousands of Allied young Soldiers dripping from his cowardly French tongue and fingers, he said "Non" and then again he said "Non" and then again he said "Non",,,
Kinda makes me weep.
Now we've got Mini Macron trying to tell uz wot to do... You couldn't make it up Borr!

... Make no mistake folks,,, and dont take my word for it,,, Germany,,,
has but one plan,
one aim,,,
to rule Europe,,, first,
and rule Russia,,, second...

France, has but one aim,,, to cowtow to their richer, stronger, braver Neighbour,
Germany (like they did in 1940) in order that they will one day,
with Germany's guidance,,,
rule Britain!


Back to the plot,,, we need the non skilled labour,,, the fruit farms two miles from our front door in Hoveton, Norfolk, cant operate without the hard working folk from Bulgaria, and Romania etc etc. They come here to work and they pay their way,,,
No complaints with that.
What I'm sick and tired of is the likes of Barnier, Tusk, Juncker, Verhofstat, etc etc etc
telling us wot to do?!!!
Well ,,, **** you!!!
Europe has ALWAYS needed us more than we need them!!!

Tell Em to go SUCK,,, go ****!!!

RULE BRITANNIA!!!
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welling up hear - we'll said swantastic and my sediments xactly the eu are a bunch of unelected democrats & there aim is as u put it to unite europe under a german banner a forth riech if u will hitle will be laughing in his gasket as he sees frau merkel do his bidding no wonder russia is nervous putin already training his missiles on the great european cities we are better off out and they no it.

GOD BLESS HER MAGESTY
 
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55282 said:
Plasters anyone?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-51611514
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I think it's a great thing. No need to attach 'racism' to this product.
Plasters are made in 'skin tone' with the idea to minimise how noticeable they are. Doesn't work for those with much darker skin.
At least they can buy something closer to their skin colour now. I have no problem with that - why would anyone ?
I'm just surprised it's taken this long.

We've already had shampoos specifically for blonde hair - Timotei, and I'm sure there are other colours available. Nobody has said Timotei is racist have they ?

I use headset microphones a lot in my job, we have 2 colours - a beige colour and a brown colour - nobody makes a deal out of that.

This is the same as that Afua Hirsch woman seeing racism in everything.

It's just a plaster - in various colours !
 
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