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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    Probably true, but in serious cases such as deportation, the defendant would get legal aid which is effectively unlimited funds.

    It's cases where legal aid no longer applies that would be affected by the cuts
     
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  2. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

    Turkish" Premier" Hoops Well-Known Member

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    Yea good luck with that idea Fella, built any mud pies yet ? <whistle>
     
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  3. Willhoops

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    Brilliant wit, the chuckle brothers would be envious of you. You do realise you are coming across as a gibbering simpleton right?
     
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  4. Stroller

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    Good one from Corbyn at PMQs today....

    Mr Corbyn cited a "young black boy who came to the UK aged five and is now being deported after serving time for a drugs offence."

    Taking aim at the Prime Minister, who has openly admitted taking cocaine when he was 19, the Labour leader said: "If there was a case of a young white boy, with blonde hair, who later dabbled in class A drugs, and conspired with a friend to beat up a journalist, would he deport that boy?

    "Or, is it one rule for young black boys from the Caribbean and another for white boys from the United States."
     
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  5. colognehornet

    colognehornet Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but it is categorically false to claim that EU citizens cannot be deported. In the year ending 2017 there had been 5,301 EU citizens deported by the UK. Even allowing for freedom of movement deportation is still allowed within the EU for reasons of public security or public policy - if someone is a danger to public safety they can be deported, regardless of how long they have been in the country. Length of residence tends to reduce the scope for this - if someone has been resident for over 10 years then the range of offences for which deportation can be applied becomes smaller - restricted to the more serious violent cases. Problems have arisen in the past because of the British government's interpretation of ''public security'' - they have tried to deport for such reasons as ''rough sleeping'' - needless to say the EU were not impressed by this interpretation.
     
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  6. kiwiqpr

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    Who brought in the deportation laws

    It shouldn't matter if you come from the US or the Caribbean
    If you become eligible for deportation through your own actions then off you go
     
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  7. kiwiqpr

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    british airways will make a killing deporting this lot in a few years

    Home Office Bureaucrats Accused of Burying Report on Ethnicity of Grooming Gang Rapists
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    Home Office bureaucrats have been accused of burying a report on the ethnic background of grooming gang rapists announced in 2018.

    The report was commissioned by Sajid Javid — then Home Secretary, now Chancellor of the Exchequer — in 2018, with the Pakistani-heritage Muslim MP saying it made him “feel angry” that such a disproportionate number of grooming gang rapists came from his community, and that they had “disgraced our heritage”.

    The Home Office later said the review would remain internal, however, supposedly due to operational sensitivity, and Javid was accused of having essentially shelved it.

    Now his successor as Home Secretary, Priti Patel, is reportedly being met with “obfuscation” and “given the run around” by departmental bureaucrats as she attempts to find out what has become of their investigation.



    “I have no idea why, but it has consistently felt like Home Office officials deliberately avoid ministers clear instructions for research when it comes to grooming gangs,” commented Sarah Champion, a Labour MP who has pressed the issue of grooming gangs for some time, and was sacked from Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn’s shadow government for daring to say that “Britain has a problem with British Pakistani men raping and exploiting white girls.”

    “The Home Office ministers and the former Home Secretary [Javid] have all stated to me that the department will carry out research into perpetrators of gang-related child sexual exploitation,” Champion said of the current impasse.

    “Still we have nothing. It appears civil servants in the Home Office believe if they ignore requests into grooming gang data for long enough, ministers will just move on to a different topic.

    “I think they might be shocked by the persistence of Priti Patel on this issue.”

    Sources told the Huffington Post that Patel was “not best pleased” with officials in her department, who are seen as “not being completely upfront” about the issue. She is said to be insistent on seeing the results of the report for herself, even if they are not revealed to the public.

    Independent research by think tank Quilliam has previously indicated that some 84 per cent of groomers are South Asian origin men.



    “We were promised a review of sorts by the then home secretary and then when it didn’t surface, we were told it was for internal use only,” commented Nazir Afzal, a former Crown prosecutor who led some of the early cases against grooming gang when the authorities were finally forced to act on the scandal.

    “Now it seems nobody can find it, he added.

    “It’s victims that constantly get let down by the failures of those in authority.”

    Afzal wants the report released because, in his view, its absence is being “exploited by the far right”.

    Because of his background and work on grooming gang cases, Afzal is often wheeled out by the mainstream media outlets who neglected the issue for years as an authoritative voice ont the subject — but he has previously tried to play down the religious and ethnic dimensions of the large-scale sexual exploitation of overwhelmingly non-Muslim, usually white girls by overwhelmingly Mulsim, usually Pakistani-origin men as non-existent or minimal.

    In 2014 he suggested that while the ethnic profile of victims and perpetrators “is what it is”, Asian-origin men were vastly overrepresented in the offender statistics in large part because “Pakistani men, Asian men, [are] disproportionately employed in the night-time economy” — cab drivers, takeaway owners and workers, and so on — and that brings vulnerable seeking “transport” and “food” in contact with the “very small minority” of night-time economy workers inclined towards sexual abuse.
     
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  11. Turkish" Premier" Hoops

    Turkish" Premier" Hoops Well-Known Member

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    And your coming across as a complete ****ing idiot, but hey ho as if i give a flying f*ck what you think, so toddle on back to kindergarten and your age group , bye bye Gullible!
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

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    3.000.000 applied so far
    of the ones checked so far 6 have been refused
    not knowing how many have been checked you have to assume 2.999.994 are ok
    there are a few million that for whatever reason have not applied
     
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  13. Stroller

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    It doesn't say 3 million have been checked though, it says 3 million have applied. Maybe they've checked 6 and rejected them all.
     
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  14. kiwiqpr

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    that's what I said

    of the ones checked so far 6 have been refused
    not knowing how many have been checked you have to assume 2.999.994 are ok
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    You definitely don’t have to assume that as it’s highly unlikely to be anywhere near true.
     
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  16. Star of David Bardsley

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    You need help.
     
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  17. Willhoops

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    You need to calm down fella, you seem to have worked yourself into quite a tizzy. You remind me of one of those idiots that calls into James O’Brian and starts loosing their **** when it’s pointed out that what they believe has no basis in reality. Maybe we should leave it there as post on post you’re embarrassing yourself, it’s cringeworthy
     
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  18. kiwiqpr

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    worlds strongest glass
    or
    worlds weakest protesters

    10 hits with a sledgehammer
     
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  19. kiwiqpr

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    Rebecca Long Bailey’s email ban is the least of our problems

    The Labour leadership contender says we should ignore after-hours work messages but she can’t stop jobs being lost
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    Monday February 10 2020, 5.00pm GMT, The Times
    The Labour leadership contender Rebecca Long Bailey has declared that she wants people to have the right to ignore emails sent outside working hours, in a policy announcement that her staff emailed out at 7.25pm one day last week.

    There’s a lot to dwell on in that sentence, isn’t there. I should add, though, that Long Bailey also claimed that she once needed to work until 3am to prepare for a committee meeting the following morning, only for others to point out that it wasn’t actually the following morning at all. So it may be that what she really needs is not sweeping new laws on working hours but a calendar and a watch.

    Like a lot of Labour policies, though, this one only sounds

    Continue reading
     
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    It doesn't say 'of the ones checked'.
     
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