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  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    That was the second Cup Final I watched. The first was this. Watch the challenge that puts Wood out of the game in the days there were no substitutes. And hear the commentator say it was a fair challenge...
    Sadly only Foulkes and Charlton played in both finals.

     
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    Uncanny - I just viewed this clip, and was about to post it but thought the fact that Packy McParland hit Wood way before he subsequently scored, it didn't fit the subject perfectly. He did soften himup a wee bit mind.
     
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    The rules had to change, otherwise they'd have took to going on the field armed with AK47's <laugh>
     
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    The fact wood had to go off after 6 minutes and be replaced by an outfield player in those days of no substitutes did rather have an influence on the game.First 4 Cup Finals I watched all had incidents which affected the game, the Lofthouse one and 3 with teams going down to 10 men with no subs.
     
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    My first was the year before - the game where Trautman broke his neck & played on !!! My gran had got a telly for the Coronation, so was the first opportunity.
    Goalies were very vulnerable in those days.
     
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  6. Barchullona

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    We had a TV then. Must have had one in 1955 as I remember my dad saying that when he had an ITV aerial put up a surprising amount of people found some reason to pop round and have a look. Surprising my dad was one of the first to have ITV as he was never one for jumping in with new things. Can remember him telling me first TV he got, must have been 1954 cost 8 weeks wages , that was for a 10” screen with only one channel housed in a cabinet about the size of a fridge freezer. Must have been some sort of instalment plan as he didn’t have that sort of money available spare. Shows how quickly things changed, in 1953 the Matthews Final was the first where the whole Cup Final was televised and my dad said in the street where had a shop, which was a long street, there was a long queue where they were taking it in turns to watch a few minutes at the only place in the street with a television, the flat above the local bookies. Which says something.
    It was exciting, in a way that is difficult to explain to your kids and grandkids, to see TV when everything was new.
    Seeing westerns, American crime series as well as our own, Robin Hood, William Tell, Ivanhoe, Sir Lancelot. Then the effect something like Quatermass had...
     
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    Very fond memories of those days indeed.
    My gran was very enterprising. She figured out if she bought a TV ( on HP plan probably) just before the coronation, she would be the only one on the street to have one. She charged the neighbours 3d to come in and watch it - apparently it was packed out !
    We didn't have one in Hessle, so after watching City with my granddad ( walking back from BP to their place in Anlaby Common was a bit of a drag), I'd stay over for my baked beans on toast and watch the Saturday night BBC programs. Big exciting treat.
    Quatermass & the Pit - bloody scary as hell I recall . Andre Morell if my memory serves me well ?
     
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    Tony Norman played two and half seasons for us in the second tier, the rest of the time it was the leagues below that.

    McGregor all day long despite his disastrous blooper at Lokeren.

    Oh I'm sorry that was Steve Bruce's fault.
     
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    I remember the first thing I saw on ITV was this advert. In later years I would have sworn it was for chocolate until the wonders of YouTube let you see it again,

     
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    Andre Morrell was the third person to play Quatermass. He had been offered the first one but turned it down, Amazing to think that a lot of those went out live interspersed with some prefilmed sections. It was rumoured that in one episode of Quatermass that an extra collapsed and died on set and they just moved him and carried on rather than just stop. Seems funny watching it now, even the cleaners talk with a public school accent. Viewing figures for Quatermass and the pit averaged 10 million which was about 50% of licence holders.
    Just had a read about Quatermass And The Pit. Apparently a load of political allegories in it to do with race riots in London. Black leaders objected to these allegories. The more things change and all that...

    They have remastered it. Doesn’t seem the same without the flickering, a rolling screen and thick lines across the screen.<laugh>

     
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    I agree with you City Man. He has a bad spell in the middle when coming back from a bad injury, but otherwise was the best I've seen for City (Mckechnie onwards) . It is about putting thing in perspective and apart from him, Boaz, Duke and Jak, nobody has played in goal for us at the top level. A goalies role has changed massively since Norman, Wealands etc. They didn't have to cope with having to now play a bit of football too, as well as lighter balls that move in the air and playing against technically more gifted players..
     
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    Corrected and inserted.

    It was this.

     
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    They did have to cope with poor, bobbly surfaces and being assaulted by players in a manner which would get a charge of GBH nowadays. Billy Whitehurst or Aguero? Who would you rather have bearing down on you?
     
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    I saw nearly every match Norman played for us, and can recall just one howler in all of them. In the last few minutes at Exeter away he tried to trap the ball, it bobbled over his foot for a corner which Exeter scored from. It's all about opinions, but I have no doubt that Tony Norman was a far better keeper than McGregor.

    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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    Waggy and Keith Edwards never played in the top flight for us but I would take them, and some others, over others who have.
     
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    I think you're stretching it a bit there. Waggy must be 77 and Edwards over 60 by now, and I doubt either have kept themselves match fit.
     
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    He once grabbed at, & dropped, a cross in front of Bunkers. Cost us a goal. Proper howler, but the only one I can recall.
     
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    You can only compete against what's in front of you, bit while Waggy was a favourites of mine, he wouldn't be playing in the top 6 divisions nowadays.....solely on fitness, unless he could have adapted.... we'll never know.
    What we can't ignore is those who played for City in the premier league were playing against many of the best players in the world. Edwards, Norman, Waggy etc never even played in the top tier of the best in BRITAIN
     
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    My recall is perhaps clouded by the fact that I spent most of the 1980's in a drunken haze!

    The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
     
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