Off Topic Racism

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I'd disagree partly with that, I do think it's on the rise, late 90s early 00s especially I barely saw or heard any of it in the stands, where as I do see and hear it a bit more often in recent years.

I do 100% agree with you on the level of reporting and how it is reported in the media currently though.


Oh yeah this is just my experience so know it's extremely limited in regards to the amount of games I see/the amount of games that go on
I think you're noticing it more because you've been 'told' to notice it more. You may see something innocuous 10 times a day and never notice it until someone points it out, then you'll notice it everytime.
 
There was a downward trend of people in the UK identifying themselves as racist until 2001 when it suddenly jumped back from 25% to 38% and hung around there for a bit. As @brb observed that was probably due to 9/11. There was a large drop in 2013 which could have been due to the Olympics. Then a rise in 2017. I have a suspicion that the number of actual racists has stayed around 40% throughout but people are more inclined to be honest about it if they see others being racist and find it harder to admit when people like Sir Mo Farah are doing well. Only a few of that 40% have extreme racist views but in a crowd of 60 000 that still leaves several thousand who might deliver abuse. In some ways football is providing a service of bringing these people to justice but that is too high a price for the players.
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I think you're noticing it more because you've been 'told' to notice it more. You may see something innocuous 10 times a day and never notice it until someone points it out, then you'll notice it everytime.


I do get what you are saying, from personal experience I've certainly noticed a few nasty ignorant comments which I didn't back then. I've always been one of those liberal lefties that people hate so racism has always been something I've noticed and spoken out against.
 
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I think you're noticing it more because you've been 'told' to notice it more. You may see something innocuous 10 times a day and never notice it until someone points it out, then you'll notice it everytime.


Yeah, you wouldn’t normally notice someone making monkey noises <doh>



That might be true at West Ham, come to think of it.
 
Brb leading the way and showing zero tolerance.

I've dealt with racist people in real life mate, so I'm very intolerant to it. I also see people shy away from tackling it, and they look uncomfortable when I get vocal about dealing with it. We can't cure it, but we can shut the fookers up and that's all that needs to happen on the terraces, telling them to shut up or **** off back to their hole.
 
I was once offered a British movement paper(canny mind what it was called) as I made my way into Ibrox stadium to watch the famous Glasgow Rangers. Probably because I had a short hair cut and I was wearing Doc Martin's.

When I asked the guy peddling the ****e if he was giving me it because they had ran out of toilet paper in the stadium the chap wasn't best pleased. Took umbrage you might say. Anyhoo a discussion ensued where the nazi fellow was told, in no uncertain terms that if he didn't take his paper and his racist face out of my way I would rip his fùcking head off.

Up trots Glasgow's finest to see what the fuss was about and threatened to arrest me. Seemingly there was nothing illegal about handing out right wing fascist propaganda on the streets of blighty circa 1990s.

I dare say not much has changed since.
 
I was once offered a British movement paper(canny mind what it was called) as I made my way into Ibrox stadium to watch the famous Glasgow Rangers. Probably because I had a short hair cut and I was wearing Doc Martin's.

When I asked the guy peddling the ****e if he was giving me it because they had ran out of toilet paper in the stadium the chap wasn't best pleased. Took umbrage you might say. Anyhoo a discussion ensued where the nazi fellow was told, in no uncertain terms that if he didn't take his paper and his racist face out of my way I would rip his fùcking head off.

Up trots Glasgow's finest to see what the fuss was about and threatened to arrest me. Seemingly there was nothing illegal about handing out right wing fascist propaganda on the streets of blighty circa 1990s.

I dare say not much has changed since.

Are the 'famous Glasgow Rovers' the ones that play in blue?