Off Topic 2019 GE

[safc-noggieland]

Hope so, I bet you vote Labour because your dad did.

My dad wasn’t British so couldn’t vote.
But what he did do was instill in me and siblings was a sense of fairness,
a love of my fellow man
Protect those that need
and a sense of solidarity with those around me on the social scale.
My dad worked at Doxfords and later at Vane Tempest Colliery worked every weekend and 1/2 shift he could. He had to he fathered 8 of us in Pennywell.
Through social policies and free education half of his children have university degrees and all have done well in life.
But he gave us the above values that last a lifetime.
If you want the same level education field for your children and grandchildren how the fooking heck can ordinary folk vote for party that will ABSOLUTELY NOT give you this.
TIME FOR A CHANGE
TIME FOR INTEGRITY
vote for a PARTY not a man
KTF

 

[polyphemus]

Just to balance things a bit. In the last 5 weeks I have received a blood test, MRI scan, prostrate biopsy taken and a bone scan.All within 5 weeks. Fortunately They have caught the cancer early to be offered an operation to have my prostate removed in the hope they will get all of it. I am having the operation on Monday.
Although I am only one person. A thought I got a first class treatment and do wonder where are all these waiting list for Cancer Care treatment
Labours favourite words are Crisis and I do wonder how much of it is exaggerated

Firstly, (and most importantly), good luck with the treatment.

I can join you in the sentiment though, based on the last few years.
Having hardly bothered the NHS for well over 60 years, arthritis kicked in and I now move about with two new hips and a new knee.
So far the other knee is OK.
And I've had a hernia repaired.

One of the replacement ops was delayed due to a lash up in the clerical systems but it was all ok in the end.

No complaints from me, not even about the six months delay.
I don't expect a perfect World and I know that people make mistakes.I'm also aware that it wouldn't be cost effective to build and staff hospitals to cope with every possible eventuality and emergency.

 

[safc-noggieland]

If you look at the state of our club and football team...its understandable the busiest thread is politics..

As for polls the only thing that is certain about them is that they will be wrong

Gordon Brown iirc had a poor moment with some woman that was a disaster

Bonko has today had a disaster with a 4 year old lying in the floor of a hospital and nicking a journo's phone..

For want of a nail a shoe was lost, for want of a shoe a horse was lost for want of a horse a kingdom was lost.... I forget where this phrase is from.... heres hoping Bonko has lost a nail!

He’s deffo lost a screw

 

[safc-noggieland]

For argument's sake, why would the Conservative party want that to happen? It doesn't benefit them directly. It's not going to benefit the US government directly. It only benefits the pharmaceutical companies. Most of the big pharmaceutical companies operate in this country to some degree anyway and supply drugs to this country, so it's not like this approach is going to attract companies to relocate here. Where is the political gain in this for anyone?

When they sold British Gas and when they sold British Telecom - that was putting millions A DAY into the exchequer allthose profits stopped comming to US and went into their mates pockets.
IT’S WHAT THEY DO !!!!!
Why should us the plebs benefit when the few shareholders can grab it all.
TIME TO THINK OF THE MANY
NOT THE SUPER RICH

KTF

 

[Son of Baxter]

I'm sorry to read this mate.

I wish you well and a speedy recovery.

Thanks mate. I am trying to think positively.

 

[safc-noggieland]

Anybody else not suspicious about that child with 'suspected' pneumonia, lying on a cold hospital floor just a few days before an election?

I mean, if my child was that ill so I lay him down on a cold floor and whipped my phone out to take a few snaps so they could go viral on the internet, I believe my other half would take my bloody head off.

Seats were available, at the time. It's been confirmed. Surely he could have lay across the seats, or hey, here's an idea, maybe the parents could have sat down and cuddled him in their arms.

No, in that situation it is always better to lay the child on a cold floor, take some snaps and send them to the media and viral around social media, of course.

Shameful.

Saffy, Saffy mate your a victim of the big bad wolf ‘fake news please read. Google it it is out there.

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[safc-noggieland]

Anybody else not suspicious about that child with 'suspected' pneumonia, lying on a cold hospital floor just a few days before an election?

I mean, if my child was that ill so I lay him down on a cold floor and whipped my phone out to take a few snaps so they could go viral on the internet, I believe my other half would take my bloody head off.

Seats were available, at the time. It's been confirmed. Surely he could have lay across the seats, or hey, here's an idea, maybe the parents could have sat down and cuddled him in their arms.

No, in that situation it is always better to lay the child on a cold floor, take some snaps and send them to the media and viral around social media, of course.

Shameful.

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[The Norton Cat]

When they sold British Gas and when they sold British Telecom - that was putting millions A DAY into the exchequer allthose profits stopped comming to US and went into their mates pockets.
IT’S WHAT THEY DO !!!!!
Why should us the plebs benefit when the few shareholders can grab it all.
TIME TO THINK OF THE MANY
NOT THE SUPER RICH

KTF

But most of those things were privatised because they were poorly run, over-unionised, and were being propped up by the tax-payer. The theory was that private ownership could offer a better service (although in hindsight maybe not). That's not going to happen with the NHS because it's a more complicated beast. No one but the drug firms will benefit from increased prices.

 

[Hamish 1973]

My dad wasn’t British so couldn’t vote.
But what he did do was instill in me and siblings was a sense of fairness,
a love of my fellow man
Protect those that need
and a sense of solidarity with those around me on the social scale.
My dad worked at Doxfords and later at Vane Tempest Colliery worked every weekend and 1/2 shift he could. He had to he fathered 8 of us in Pennywell.
Through social policies and free education half of his children have university degrees and all have done well in life.
But he gave us the above values that last a lifetime.
If you want the same level education field for your children and grandchildren how the fooking heck can ordinary folk vote for party that will ABSOLUTELY NOT give you this.
TIME FOR A CHANGE
TIME FOR INTEGRITY
vote for a PARTY not a man
KTF

So you agree that Corbyn is a utter clown then.

 

[polyphemus]

My dad wasn’t British so couldn’t vote.
But what he did do was instill in me and siblings was a sense of fairness,
a love of my fellow man
Protect those that need
and a sense of solidarity with those around me on the social scale.
My dad worked at Doxfords and later at Vane Tempest Colliery worked every weekend and 1/2 shift he could. He had to he fathered 8 of us in Pennywell.
Through social policies and free education half of his children have university degrees and all have done well in life.
But he gave us the above values that last a lifetime.
If you want the same level education field for your children and grandchildren how the fooking heck can ordinary folk vote for party that will ABSOLUTELY NOT give you this.
TIME FOR A CHANGE
TIME FOR INTEGRITY
vote for a PARTY not a man
KTF

I wouldn't for a moment knock your idealism, I think I had it too, many years ago.

Now I've reached the age when I don't think that it makes much difference which bunch of opportunists is in charge of the gravy train.
Don't get me wrong.
Honest politicians exist.
I believe that Chris Mullings was one.
But in general they are as rare as hen's teeth.

For a couple of examples consider---

Our local MP's happily oppose Brexit, irrespective of the majority of the local voters being in favour of it.
Our views are presumably considered as being of no value although they all value our votes.

Then we have one of my favorites.
The Private Finance Initiative.
First introduced by John Major this was bitterly opposed by Labour as 'back door privatisation'.
Not long afterwards Labour took power.
Did they scrap, or at very least discontinue this policy?
No.
They expanded it introducing an NHS version just for hospitals.
So now the NHS has a further bill to pay.
And the Tory Party felt it was their turn to be critical.

I should add that I'm not criticising either Party for this policy though I've always thought of it as a bit shady it fitted the bill at the time.
My point is that it is a reasonable idea to consider the vast majority of the weeping and wailing that comes from ALL politicians as being opportunistic crocodile tears.

 

[The Norton Cat]

My dad wasn’t British so couldn’t vote.
But what he did do was instill in me and siblings was a sense of fairness,
a love of my fellow man
Protect those that need
and a sense of solidarity with those around me on the social scale.
My dad worked at Doxfords and later at Vane Tempest Colliery worked every weekend and 1/2 shift he could. He had to he fathered 8 of us in Pennywell.
Through social policies and free education half of his children have university degrees and all have done well in life.
But he gave us the above values that last a lifetime.
If you want the same level education field for your children and grandchildren how the fooking heck can ordinary folk vote for party that will ABSOLUTELY NOT give you this.
TIME FOR A CHANGE
TIME FOR INTEGRITY
vote for a PARTY not a man
KTF

The law introducing university tuition fees was voted in in 1998 under a Labour government. In 2003, under a Labour government, a law was passed allowing universities to se their own tuition rates. However, in 2018, Conservative PM Theresa May launched a review which was set to explore possible alternatives to tuition fees. I was in the first year of students who couldn't claim a full university grant. It was Labour that took away free education.

 

[Saf]

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That confirms what I've said.

Chairs were available so the parents could have lay him down on them or sat on them and cuddled him.

Instead they chose to lie him on a hospital floor, take a picture and send it to the media.

 

[clockstander]

That confirms what I've said.

Chairs were available so the parents could have lay him down on them or sat on them and cuddled him.

Instead they chose to lie him on a hospital floor, take a picture and send it to the media.

Chairs instead of beds, thats the idea.

 

[Saf]

Chairs instead of a cold hard floor, thats the idea.

FTFY

 

[Makemstine Roger]

My dad wasn’t British so couldn’t vote.
But what he did do was instill in me and siblings was a sense of fairness,
a love of my fellow man
Protect those that need
and a sense of solidarity with those around me on the social scale.
My dad worked at Doxfords and later at Vane Tempest Colliery worked every weekend and 1/2 shift he could. He had to he fathered 8 of us in Pennywell.
Through social policies and free education half of his children have university degrees and all have done well in life.
But he gave us the above values that last a lifetime.
If you want the same level education field for your children and grandchildren how the fooking heck can ordinary folk vote for party that will ABSOLUTELY NOT give you this.
TIME FOR A CHANGE
TIME FOR INTEGRITY
vote for a PARTY not a man
KTF

your right there vote conservative

 

[clockstander]

That confirms what I've said.

Chairs were available so the parents could have lay him down on them or sat on them and cuddled him.

Instead they chose to lie him on a hospital floor, take a picture and send it to the media.

The point is that the hospital was overcrowded.

 

[Gordon Armstrong]

No, Clocky . . . . the point is that his guardian (parent or whoever) decided to put him on the cold floor (knowing that he possibly had pneumonia) rather than carry/cuddle him making use of the chairs available, purely for a 'photo opportunity

 

[Saf]

The point is that the hospital was overcrowded.

That's not a point, mate.

The hospital have stated that it was unusually busy. We have to accept there's going to be times like that. I think folks expectations are too high of the NHS. They'll be quiet times and busy periods. We just have to roll with that.

As Gordon has reiterated, seats were available for the parents and child, but parent decided not to use the chairs and opted to lie the child on the floor.

 

[Deletion Requested1]

https://www.ccn.com/page-48-tory-manifesto-will-lead-uk-into-tyranny/

 

[The Norton Cat]

https://www.ccn.com/page-48-tory-manifesto-will-lead-uk-into-tyranny/

Ps shame a foreign website has to report it

So according to that article, retaining first past the post, updating parliamentary boundaries, reviewing the fixed term parliaments act (introduced by the Tories in 2011), and fixing the voting age at 18 are factors that amount to 'tyranny'. I'm terrified. What absolute scaremongering. There's definitely no pro-Labour agenda there is there? There are worrying things on that Page 48, like not continuing with the Leveson enquiry, but it certainly doesn't amount to tyranny. And to top it all off, this completely biased article opens by accusing the BBC of bias.
Why can't we have balanced reporting? Ridiculous things like this are just driving the divide and polarising people further.