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brb said:
How can he have no recollection of her...

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How many times do you think he has been asked for a pic? the photo itself proves nothing other than that they were at the same party ... if the photo is real. I thought he was saying that it's a fake and that he wouldn't have dressed like that blah blah ... the photo's authenticity can surely be tested by experts?

My own view is that she is likely one of hundreds made available to him by Epstein and possibly others with that kind of wealth and pull. A symbiotic relationship - he gets a bevy of beauties they get to say "My buddy, the Prince".

I doubt he stopped to ask every girl he met through such events their age and even if he did they may not have been too honest if they thought they might have to leave such trendy company.

There seems to be no question of rape so his real crime seems to be taking advantage of his position. He showed a real error of judgement in going to see Epstein after his conviction... although somebody at work said something that did give me pause for thought ... they were undoubtedly very good mates and how would any of us act if one of our best mates was convicted of something? ... immediately cut off all contact? or want to find out for yourself? particularly if they are claiming to be innocent... Andrew's biggest problem in that regard is who he is ... and visiting Epstein so publicly was a huge error of judgement.

... but there is also real and important news in the world.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
How many times do you think he has been asked for a pic? the photo itself proves nothing other than that they were at the same party ... if the photo is real. I thought he was saying that it's a fake and that he wouldn't have dressed like that blah blah ... the photo's authenticity can surely be tested by experts?

My own view is that she is likely one of hundreds made available to him by Epstein and possibly others with that kind of wealth and pull. A symbiotic relationship - he gets a bevy if beauties they get to say "My buddy, the Prince".

I doubt he stopped to ask every girl he met through such events their age and even if he did they may not have been too honest if they thought they might have to leave such trendy company.

There seems to be no question of rape so his real crime seems to be taking advantage of his position. He showed a real error of judgement in going to see Epstein after his conviction... although somebody at work said something that did give me pause for thought ... they were undoubtedly very good mates and how would any of us act if one of our best mates was convicted of something? ... immediately cut off all contact? or want to find out for yourself? particularly if they are claiming to be innocent... Andrew's biggest problem in that regard is who he is ... and visiting Epstein so publicly was a huge error of judgement.

... but there is also real and important news in the world.
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What?
 
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FosseFilberto said:
My point is that some are claiming that photo is proof that he knew her and remembers her ... by itself, it isn't ... I imagine he has had a pic taken with countless people, many of them pretty girls.
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Well he's claiming the opposite and that he rarely poses for pictures and therefore he'd remember.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
My point is that some are claiming that photo is proof that he knew her and remembers her ... by itself, it isn't ... I imagine he has had a pic taken with countless people, many of them pretty girls.
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I find it a bit bizarre his memory swings from not remembering things that may or may not have happened to remembering them but needing a margin of error of several months for the date to remembering he was at a mid-level pizza chain in Woking on a specific date for his daughter’s friend’s party while his wife was away on a day in March two decades ago.
 
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My view is that in all probability he did have sex with her... but he was probably given a different bed warmer at every party he attended... he may not remember her. Makes him a privilidged arrogant twat ... but it doesn't make him a criminal.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
How many times do you think he has been asked for a pic? the photo itself proves nothing other than that they were at the same party ... if the photo is real. I thought he was saying that it's a fake and that he wouldn't have dressed like that blah blah ... the photo's authenticity can surely be tested by experts?

My own view is that she is likely one of hundreds made available to him by Epstein and possibly others with that kind of wealth and pull. A symbiotic relationship - he gets a bevy of beauties they get to say "My buddy, the Prince".

I doubt he stopped to ask every girl he met through such events their age and even if he did they may not have been too honest if they thought they might have to leave such trendy company.

There seems to be no question of rape so his real crime seems to be taking advantage of his position. He showed a real error of judgement in going to see Epstein after his conviction... although somebody at work said something that did give me pause for thought ... they were undoubtedly very good mates and how would any of us act if one of our best mates was convicted of something? ... immediately cut off all contact? or want to find out for yourself? particularly if they are claiming to be innocent... Andrew's biggest problem in that regard is who he is ... and visiting Epstein so publicly was a huge error of judgement.

... but there is also real and important news in the world.
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Well your respect of women isn't that great Romeo, you think you are some Gods gift to them, many a time on this forum, so your thoughts don't surprise me tbph.
 
FosseFilberto said:
My view is that in all probability he did have sex with her... but he was probably given a different bed warmer at every party he attended... he may not remember her. Makes him a privilidged arrogant twat ... but it doesn't make him a criminal.
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Well if he slept with her while underage it does.
 
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brb said:
Well your respect of women isn't that great Romeo, you think you are some Gods gift to them, many a time on this forum, so your thoughts don't surprise me tbph.
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Not at all Babs ... almost completely the opposite. Never bedded a girl purely because it was there or because she was pissed or high. Never lost sight of the fact that a girl was somebody's daughter. I come from a large family.

Brought my girls up as best I can to see through the trappings of wealth, privilidge and the excitement of the bad boys and to judge people by their actions and have respect for themselves.

You can't control what they do when they go out it's true, but you can prepare them as best you can.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
My view is that in all probability he did have sex with her... but he was probably given a different bed warmer at every party he attended... he may not remember her. Makes him a privilidged arrogant twat ... but it doesn't make him a criminal.
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Given?

FFS.
 
West WindsR said:
I find it a bit bizarre his memory swings from not remembering things that may or may not have happened to remembering them but needing a margin of error of several months for the date to remembering he was at a mid-level pizza chain in Woking on a specific date for his daughter’s friend’s party while his wife was away on a day in March two decades ago.
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About sums it up for me. Imho he was lying through his teeth. And he also wanted to paint a picture of what a great guy he was, forces, nspcc...yet slept at a sex offenders house, because it was convenient!
 
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BillyBobBallbag said:
Its classed as a crime in this country, just playing devils advocate.
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You use the term devils advocate.
I don’t think you know what that even means.
Trying to compare a 12 year old having sex with girls around the same age with what’s being reported, is just moronic.

See you in a couple of months when you wade in on another discussion and make a tit of yourself.

Off yer pop, good lad
 
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brb said:
About sums it up for me. Imho he was lying through his teeth. And he also wanted to paint a picture of what a great guy he was, forces, nspcc...yet slept at a sex offenders house, because it was convenient!
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He would’ve walked away from the interview confident it painted him in a good light and that was the matter done with.
 
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