Well we can all wish for something to happen but you wouldn’t expect me to agree with your point, would you? I cannot bring myself to thinking that this country will vote itself into a one party system, as the Lib-Dems will never form any part of a future government with their lack of any credible policy and will eventually wither away. So that leaves Labour, well I could perhaps live with Keir Starmer, just, but none of his present colleagues seem to tick any box for me and there lies the problem in the paltry choice we have. As for the Tories, we all might get a surprise much to the chagrin of many, Corbyn‘s brand of politics, in the long run, really wants a one-party system with low if any tolerance of views other than its own. Hence and despite my current concerns about my party I do have a keen sense that we need to keep a multi-party system in our country.
I still completely fail to see why anyone would vote for the party which continues to punish the poor for the crimes of the financial sector.
The public version of himself Boris projected when he was Mayor of London was a million miles from the hard right Brexit Boris we’ve been seeing lately. He was actually a bloody useless Mayor, and his tenure only benefited wealthy property developers at the expense of ordinary working people, but he was careful to present himself in public as progressive, inclusive, and liberal with a small “l”. The mask has well and truly slipped now, and people can see him for the unprincipled duplicitous chancer he always was.
There’s a huge irony here for me; when Labour lost the 2010 election, I thought I could happily live with a Con/Dem coalition. Even when Cameron won his own majority in 2015 I thought that as Tories go, he wasn’t that bad, despite the suffering austerity imposed on the most vulnerable in society. But my god, look where we are now. The Tories have absolutely brought this country to it’s knees.
Hard to argue with any of this article. The Tory Party is becoming a sewer: https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/20...EOxri1t0FHkBsNIQ2PsJO7IUG0fGYb-d1eqTy-vKDqEJo
And yet there will still be forelock tugging working class people prepared to vote for them for some unfathomable reason. The only one I can vaguely point at is the myth that people born with a relative silver spoon in their mouths are supposed to be better suited to running the country than people who weren't. They conveniently forget that those who weren't were still probably educated to the same University level, and therefore can think just as well as a person who once ***ged for Flashman. Today, I overheard that oft touted myth [sadly, from a working class Londoner] that ALL politicians are just as bad as each other. Well, actually NO, that's not true. Most MPs are decent, principled people. Undoubtedly, some of whom stand for principles that I don't happen to agree with. Then there are the true rats who give the rest a bad name. Was Jo Cox MP a bad person overall, and just a bad as the others? The problem is, that once one starts mug-slinging, it tends to stick to all. And it feeds on ignorance. And [I'll say something here that might inflame a few, but it's my personal experience] the uneducated person, to a higher level, tends to remain in a world of relative ignorance, because they've never acquired the habit of checking validity. Their "truth" is often what the best friend said. I'm forever saying to people - "verify" your so-called facts. Don't take someone else's word for something when you can easily verify the truth right under your fingertips. Don't take my word, for example. Check first. These things are too important to let go on a lazy whim. Sorry, that became a rant, but you have to understand that when I overheard this chap today it made me so depressed of any hopeful outcome to a general election.
Plus I apologise to anyone who hasn't been educated to a higher level yet have acquired the habit of fact checking and verification. Myths cannot stand up in the face of true facts.
Because of my job I don't comment on the politics thread very often but this is shaping up to be a very interesting few weeks. Kent is pretty much completely blue. Canterbury being the only red on the map and the last election labour got in for about the first time in my lifetime. Rosie Duffield has done a decent job. With a very large student population it will be interesting to see if most vote in Canterbury or their home constituencies. It will affect the result. Interesting times indeed.
My MP Ross Thomson, alleged House of Commons bar man-groper (investigation ongoing), resigned on Saturday. I got a letter from him on Monday soliciting for my vote ! Clear evidence that he was presented suddenly with an ultimatum, and jumped before he was pushed. We have a new tory candidate - I wonder what corruption or deviancy this one has been up to.
Norwich North was won by the Tories in 2017 with a majority of 507. The city voted 56/44 Remain! South Cambs won by Heidi Allen with a majority of over 14,000 polled by YouGov. LD 40% Tory 36%.
There does seem to be a lack of critical thinking in this country. I'm amazed that so many people moan about politics, yet are more interested in the other dross served up on television and can't be bothered to stand up and be counted. My hope is that young people really do organise themselves and somehow this country can wake up and kick the Tories into touch. I am one of those who has no formal education beyond secondary school. The only exam I have ever passed is my driving test. I guess that makes me really thick. By the way, I'm really enjoying many of the excellent posts on here. It makes Saints loosing every week almost bearable.
I've been told elsewhere that I'm a communist traitor that shouldn't qualify to vote as I live in the Netherlands and disagree with brexit. My reply was measured and considered - F.O.B.Y.A.C! I'd rather **** a bucket with a big hole in it, than be a tory voter for just one minute.
Thinking back to my childhood working class people seemed far more engaged in politics. Now it seems that, as you say, the bulk of people are interested in singing, dancing, cooking, sewing competitions on the telly box.
Did my Environment degree at Canterbury. Very nice place. 1st year, train and bicycle from Rainham. Then 2nd year onward, motorbike from Egerton Forstal, which mainly turned into another train and bicycle trip because the Suzuki GSX550 I had was so crap. Plus a oncoming truck wanted to take me out of this world while on a country road, during a winter, so I had to slide the thing into the usual roadside ditch, to avoid him, which gave the Suzy another convenient excuse not to work. Happy days. Yes, I know this is still the Politics Thread.
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