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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    As a Jew, I* feel far more threat from the rise and normalisation of the far right than anything on the left. Feel the anti-semitism is well overhyped to smear Corbyn personally when he’s vocally condemned it while our actual PM very openly panders to the greater number of islamophobes in the country.

    Not saying the Labour membership is perfect by any means.


    *fear is more for others than myself.
     
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    “We asked 27 pensioners in a Rochdale Wetherspoon’s on a Wednesday lunchtime and these are the damning results!!”
     
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    Oh dear mate that rest hasn't done you any good at all. A respected reporter :emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl. Just post a direct quote from Corbyn. Hes such an antisemitic that they should be everywhere. :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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    I understand your concern for the rise of the far right, but are you a Labour member? If not, you are probably no better qualified to comment than the rest of us, are you? You haven't experienced what Jewish members have complained about.
     
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    There does seem to be a degree of defiant, wilful blindness!
     
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    No I’m not but I’m experienced in living as a Jew in and around NW London for most of my life and now in a place with no Jewish presence at all I know of. I’ve experienced enough anti-semitism and don’t recall much of it being from anyone likely to back Labour.
     
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    Think you would need to go back a long time to find 12 Labour MP's who have resigned full stop, let alone due to anti semitism. There are far more resignations of Tory MP's. Apart from the many Tory MP's and ex-Cabinet members who resigned because they can no longer stomach Tory hard Brexit, and abuse of Parliamentary democracy, the most common reason for MP resignations these days seems to be the abuse and death threats to their families as well as themselves, mostly anti-hard Brexit MP's are receiving.
     
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    Here are a few. One of the reasons they gave was Corbyn's handling of anti-semitism.

    Joan Ryan, Anne Coffey, Angela Smith, Chris Leslie, Mike Gapes, Luciana Berger, Gavin Shuker and Chuka Umunna all announced their resignation this week. Ian Austin has now become the ninth MP to resign from the Labour Party.

    Louise Ellman is more recent, specifically related to the a-s issue. Margaret Hodge, also Jewish, is being kicked out.
     
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    Think you're out of date. Corbyn's Labour and the hard left's attitude to Jewish people is different. Ask Louise Ellman or Margaret Hodge, or Luciana Berger or any others that have left
     
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    As I said it’s just my experience and I’ve heard nothing to suggest Corbyn has issues with any race, unlike our PM.
     
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    Not even a dozen and far from all due to perceived anti semetism.
     
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    It does beggar belief. Look at the windrush scandal, convienently forgotten now.
     
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    How many do you need to leave because of racism before you recognise there's a problem?
     
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    We are discussing Labour now. We’ll get to that from 3am-4am on December 13th. Thanks for understanding.
     
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    :emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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    Theres a real islamaphobia problem within the Tory party. Boris has a real problem with muslims.
     
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    A lot of the country do too though so it’s fine.
     
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    Zero if it were genuine. But you exaggerate the numbers, presume false reason for resignations ( Chuka, Austin +), and misuse the term "racism".
     
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