Freedom of movement has more or less always been there in Europe Goldie. The only real borders were those thrown up by the Warsaw Pact, and they were what you would call super hard borders. Elsewhere the so called green borders have always been negotiable simply by avoiding roads. Germany has 9 land borders and could not control all of them with or without Schengen - the Schengem agreement was simply a recognition of something which has always existed. I have been in some out of the way places where I did not know which country I was in (in the Pyrenees between France and Spain for example) Europe's borders have always been porous.
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It might be a lot more than just filling in a form though. Look at the unnecessary stress europeans are being put through here already just to continue living and paying taxes where many have done most of their lives. I’d hope other nations would realise how petty and pandering to xenophobes our government is and not reciprocate but you couldn’t blame them for doing so.
They apply for British citizenship. In cases where the Home Office messes up, go to their MP . There's plenty of help available
Yes, I see that. Freedom of movement works on the Continent of Europe. Our 2016 referendum asked whether the UK wanted a different arrangement. A majority said they did
Sounds easy and stress-free. It wouldn’t be like the Home Office to **** up or an MP to not care. Half of them are banking on dialling up xenophobia to get in again.
Freedom of movement is a huge advantage. My experience of Visa applications is of large expense, filling out pages and pages online, obtaining, numerous documents including family's proof of ownership of their house where we going to stay, and photos of every room, copying, delivering to a visa application centre 100's of miles away, which is a further big expense, and a wait before your passport comes back.
Would that mean that the Scottish Nationalist Party are also xenophobes for wanting independence? Think of the worry all the English citizens will have? No one ever questions them.
Johnson trotted out the usual bollocks at PMQs yesterday about how Labour would trash the economy if they won the election.
His Brexit deal will hit the economy by £70 billion a year.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...off-a-year-than-remaining-in-eu-a4273841.html
His Brexit deal will hit the economy by £70 billion a year.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...off-a-year-than-remaining-in-eu-a4273841.html
Lots more of that to look forward to. The Leave campaign template has been proven to work after all. Facebook ads about John McDonnell being part of the taliban incoming.
Just lie. The holy Brexit is all that matters.
Britain already has a different arrangement Goldie - you are not in Schengen. I hear so much about 'taking back control of our borders' yet ID cards are controlled, and passports, so what more do you want ? You can already prevent known criminals from entering. So, under this so called 'taking back control', what actual changes would take place at the point of entry ? And how are these changes going to be carried through without making life unnecessarily uncomfortable for tourists ? All I am asking for is some kind of plan behind all the hot air and rhetoric of Brexit - if that is classified as scaremongering, then so be it.
Happy ditch day everyone, the Day in which Boris blames Labour for failing to leave the EU, ignoring that He and Mogg and his ERG voted against a widely accepted superior deal a while back, not to worry a few get behind your country type comments from the American born PM... Of course that doesn't matter, well I'm sure that wouldn't matter if Corbyn was born stateside!
Plan behind Brexit
For Mogg and Farage it was to increase their personal wealth, Boris for him to become PM.... oh not that kind of plan? Invoke bulldog spirit? Go back to better times where worse standards of living?
different thing completely. that was Mays LINO deal. But bend the truth for your argument. The reason we haven't left is because of fanatics in Parliament. They will be gone soon.
This is why you and your fanatics will lose the GE.Plan behind Brexit
For Mogg and Farage it was to increase their personal wealth,
The reason really is that May chose to piss her majority away and then her Brexit deal wasn’t **** enough for the ERG.
You can’t seriously label Remainers as the fanatics in this when the likes of Hancock were staunch Remainers until they were offered a promotion to pretend not to be.