Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
So BBC Laura Kuenessberg says Macron could block an extension. Is that to put pressure on us and remainers here?
 
bobmid said:
So do you reckon we are settling for a worse deal than May's? Would it leave us in a weaker position than staying in?
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It sounds like it. But then No deal and All the proposed deals, leave us us in a worse position than staying In.
 
QPR Oslo said:
It sounds like it. But then No deal and All the proposed deals, leave us us in a worse position than staying In.
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If that's the case why are the EU so hell bent on the ’fair play’ agreement? Why are they so desperate to give us a bad deal if the EU is so good?
Truth is they know we will prosper and other countries will want out as well.
 
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ELLERS said:
If that's the case why are the EU so hell bent on the ’fair play’ agreement? Why are they so desperate to give us a bad deal if the EU is so good?
Truth is they know we will prosper and other countries will want out as well.
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i think it’s undeniably the case. If I was an EU negotiator why would I offer the U.K. similar terms to member states, let alone better aspects?
 
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There is absolutely no evidence that this country will prosper upon leaving. The most ardent brexitards and leavers say it could take up to half a century to see any real benefits. Is that prospering, I think not.
 
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bobmid said:
There is absolutely no evidence that this country will prosper upon leaving. The most ardent brexitards and leavers say it could take up to half a century to see any real benefits. Is that prospering, I think not.
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Yes, your EU friends are doing their level best to make this the case.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
i think it’s undeniably the case. If I was an EU negotiator why would I offer the U.K. similar terms to member states, let alone better aspects?
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Exactly that's my point. If leaving is so bad why all the trouble? As I said on many occasions that the EU is a dinosaur of red tape and beaurocracy. They will not adapt and have proven to be undemocratic. When we leave and break the chains we will bounce back in a better position while the EU will go in the other direction.
 
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bobmid said:
Our EU friends remember! It's our own doing and ineptitude from our government and parliment that has caused this but hey it's always easier to play the blame game.
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No, it’s your EU friends. My friends are European citizens, not the unelected commissars with whom we have to negotiate. Sure, my European chums might be happy as members of the impending Superstate - that is their prerogative and I respect that - but it’s not my preference.
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
No, it’s your EU friends. My friends are European citizens, not the unelected commissars with whom we have to negotiate. Sure, my European chums might be happy as members of the impending Superstate - that is their prerogative and I respect that - but it’s not my preference.
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I dont personally know them so cant class them as friends
 
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