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[Whitejock]

So the SNP told everyone to vote leave because they wanted to remain,but the Jocks all got confused and voted remain, they have then voted remain for the last 3 years although they want to leave.
I think Boris should take the vote off them and give it to carrots instead.

I can see that simple tactics are a bit beyond you, so let me put it as simply as possibly for you.

First of all, you've made another huge assumption. The SNP advised those in england ONLY to vote Leave. In Scotland, the recommendation was to vote Remain. The idea was, in principle, to show how the two countries wanted something completely different, and use this differential to leverage another Indyref attempt. It's that simple.

 

[Whitejock]

But you didnt spell it out like that in the first place. We woildnt have had to go through all that if you had said the populist snp told you to vote remain from the beginning
So its jimmy krankies fault we're in this mess eh

But they didn't. We in england were advised to vote Leave. Keep up!

 

[Whitejock]

Referendum results
By Votes
17.4 million Leave
16.1 million Remain
By Consitiuency
406 Leave
242 Remain
Constituency By Party
Labour 148 Leave 84 Remain
Tory 247 Leave 80 Remain
By Region
9 Leave 3 Remain
By MP
160 Leave 486 Remain
It’s the MPs who are the problem

Not so much the MPs, imo. It's the parties. This is a HUGE decision for our country & should not be mired by party politics. There should be free voting on this by MPs. We're in this state because of the parties interfering to look after themselves.

For Brexit, MPs should be answerable to their constituents, not their parties. For many, their actions may well result in their political careers being ended.

 

[Whitejock]

No one does lol, just because it confuses you Scots,doesn't mean it confuses them who vote for what they want, instead of what Jimmy Crankie tells you.

We're not confused by this. You clearly are, and almost every post on the subject adds to the body of evidence to confirm this.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

I can see that simple tactics are a bit beyond you, so let me put it as simply as possibly for you.

First of all, you've made another huge assumption. The SNP advised those in england ONLY to vote Leave. In Scotland, the recommendation was to vote Remain. The idea was, in principle, to show how the two countries wanted something completely different, and use this differential to leverage another Indyref attempt. It's that simple.

Defeats the object really doesn't it,you want to be one with Germany and France,but you already are, as is all the UK until the 31st of course.
I notice the latest poll give 60% to remain part of the UK,Jimmy Crankie fooked up schools and Health in scotland and fooked her party up.Think Dianne Abbott tought snp math.

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

We're not confused by this. You clearly are, and almost every post on the subject adds to the body of evidence to confirm this.

So you've no idea why you voted, don't understand any of it, but think you know why everyone else voted the way they did . Couldn't make it up.

 

[2 pennth]

Referendum results
By Votes
17.4 million Leave
16.1 million Remain
By Consitiuency
406 Leave
242 Remain
Constituency By Party
Labour 148 Leave 84 Remain
Tory 247 Leave 80 Remain
By Region
9 Leave 3 Remain
By MP
160 Leave 486 Remain
It’s the MPs who are the problem

We should take those results to the Supreme Court and to confirm that these remain MP's are acting unlawfully.

 

[Whitejock]

So you've no idea why you voted, don't understand any of it, but think you know why everyone else voted the way they did . Couldn't make it up.

Well you clearly don't. You were invited to provide the data you used but have failed to do so.

Or are you just one of the 'immigrants out' brigade that latched on to this opportunity to be racist?

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Well you clearly don't. You were invited to provide the data you used but have failed to do so.

Or are you just one of the 'immigrants out' brigade that latched on to this opportunity to be racist?

Show me where I said I used data, only you have said that, so why don't you show the data you have.

 

[Whitejock]

Show me where I said I used data, only you have said that, so why don't you show the data you have.

Listen to yourself!

No data? So you just tossed a coin then? Doesn't surprise me. Used no data for one of the most important questions you're likely to be asked in your lifetime. What an admission. So was it just joining the 'immigrants out' bandwagon, without considering the consequences, or something equally inane?

Making a decision with no data, indeed. Ha! Might explain the belly - eating 'just because', rather than your endocrine system telling you it's time to eat.

And FFS, I told you my voting methodology ad nauseam. Do I really have to repeat it for a 4th time on here?

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Listen to yourself!

No data? So you just tossed a coin then? Doesn't surprise me. Used no data for one of the most important questions you're likely to be asked in your lifetime. What an admission. So was it just joining the 'immigrants out' bandwagon, without considering the consequences, or something equally inane?

Making a decision with no data, indeed. Ha! Might explain the belly - eating 'just because', rather than your endocrine system telling you it's time to eat.

And FFS, I told you my voting methodology ad nauseam. Do I really have to repeat it for a 4th time on here?

I used my brain to make my decisions, where as you used Jimmy Crankie or the pervert told you to do it, I will stick with my method thanks. and since you brought it up, how's that get slim operation doing,not so good ay you must have twice the problem just eating if that's the after the op WJ.

 

[OLOF]

Not so much the MPs, imo. It's the parties. This is a HUGE decision for our country & should not be mired by party politics. There should be free voting on this by MPs. We're in this state because of the parties interfering to look after themselves.

For Brexit, MPs should be answerable to their constituents, not their parties. For many, their actions may well result in their political careers being ended.

The parties are the MP's

 

[milkyboy]

I used my brain to make my decisions

Shame you didn’t have something more capable available

 

[lifecheshirewhite]

Shame you didn’t have something more capable available

Where would you like me to send your gripe water when we're out

 

[milkyboy]

Where would you like me to send your gripe water when we're out

No gripe water needed. I’m no sore loser and am fine with the will of the great British public being enacted.

 

[Whitejock]

I used my brain to make my decisions, where as you used Jimmy Crankie or the pervert told you to do it, I will stick with my method thanks. and since you brought it up, how's that get slim operation doing,not so good ay you must have twice the problem just eating if that's the after the op WJ.

FFS. It's easier dealing with an infant. OK, here goes ....

So WTF did your brain use to make the decision? Suspect it might be data, given that random vacant thought is the only other alternative! FFS!

 

[Whitejock]

The parties are the MP's

You reckon?

So why are there whips to enforce party policy? And why, for example, did 21 tories get the boot? Didn't the Labout Party also oust one of Corbyn's MP pals against his wishes too?

I also think that the Unions to the left & the 'donors' to the right might disagree with you. The parties are there to conform with their policies. MPs to them & the party are potential miscreants than must be made to conform to the central policies.

MPs who vote as they wish are called Independents.

 

[OLOF]

You reckon?

So why are there whips to enforce party policy? And why, for example, did 21 tories get the boot? Didn't the Labout Party also oust one of Corbyn's MP pals against his wishes too?

I also think that the Unions to the left & the 'donors' to the right might disagree with you. The parties are there to conform with their policies. MPs to them & the party are potential miscreants than must be made to conform to the central policies.

MPs who vote as they wish are called Independents.

So, are you telling me there are no remainers in the conservative party and no leavers in the Lib dumbs or labour parties?

 

[milkyboy]

FFS. It's easier dealing with an infant. OK, here goes ....

So WTF did your brain use to make the decision? Suspect it might be data, given that random vacant thought is the only other alternative! FFS!

That is an outrageous slur. How dare you imply that chesh isn’t capable of random vacant thought.

 

[brisbane-lion]

Not so much the MPs, imo. It's the parties. This is a HUGE decision for our country & should not be mired by party politics. There should be free voting on this by MPs. We're in this state because of the parties interfering to look after themselves.

For Brexit, MPs should be answerable to their constituents, not their parties. For many, their actions may well result in their political careers being ended.

This is a bit like the tail wagging the dog, WJ. Leaving the MPs to vote on a free basis only means that they will vote the way they want and not represent the will of their electorate.