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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    When was she booted out
     
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  2. DT’s Socks

    DT’s Socks Well-Known Member

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    Mrs DT works in housing
    Long story short it’s a mess
    The Tories have cut all social housing budgets by over 70% in the last few years.

    Maybe if the UK’s housing ideal wasn’t based just around greed and the English benefit system was not so corrupt ... oh buts that’s just a maybe.

    France... there is no housing crisis maybe just pockets in urban areas ... same as any other European country.

    When the UK accepts that to allow figures of over 60% of average income to be spent just on having a roof over your head is crazy then you would get change imo... that will never happen the housing market cannot be undone. Young people are still encouraged to get onto the housing ladder.

    Others who have no chance of a house purchase then are at the mercy of the corrupt landlord market. I know this because I am one. The only moral thing my girlfriend and I have done is too release our so called investment over to organisations that shelter sincere family cases for a minimal rent.

    Has anyone any idea how much rents are in Wimbledon Village?

    **** the system it’s very wrong and it’s all based around greed. They talk about capping rents but that won’t stop it not a chance the entire nation is built around housing debt .

    In France people rent and just can’t believe the idea of going into debt and a young age
    Property portfolios are not a thing to be proud of. Life in the best years is for living when a typical property owner in the UK has endured a lifetime of paying vast amounts of a house they now face parasites in their later years who want to rob them of the profits they may of made especially those elderly home owners who face the criminal activity of care homes.

    France looked after it’s older generations and it’s people who suffer from any illness.

    I know this because I see it

    The UK does not

    The housing situation is the UK cannot be solved and what this article is really about imo is the amount of people who can’t into the madness want it all for free... that’s not ever going to happen when the evil ethic of making money out of housing is there.

    No one based in London has done anything clever if they are a historical home owner as many are close to being millionaires now on paper. It was luck nothing more.

    When a London home owner can typically sell their property (and even after other parasites who all take their slice during the sale) go and then buy three houses on average elsewhere in the UK then the system tells you how that is total nuts.

    And still the idiots of the UK think this is great. I hope the property market fails in the UK would love to see it happen but that would mean that the entire economy would go also.

    Liquidate give away a sum if your feel guilty I have done it and it feels great. I have a home now not an asset but today I can host 30 people if required all for 45,000 Euros. That’s why I harp on about lifestyles and culture

    Worn torn France my arse
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    I did say "may". The Swans were singing about being sheepshaggers on Wednesday, so go and tell their fans to stop tagging stupid stereotype fables (and then duck)
     
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  4. Goldhawk-Road

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  5. Goldhawk-Road

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    Labour were in power for over 10 years under Blair and Brown. Under their open door immigration policy, they totally underestimated the number of EU migrants coming here. They could have built houses and didn't. How do you blame Thatcher for someone living in a converted shipping container?
     
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  6. Goldhawk-Road

    Goldhawk-Road Well-Known Member

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    She wasn't wrong about closing fossil fuel mines down though, was she? Where she went wrong in my view is that she should have invested more in new industries in the north. All Blair did was give you John Prescott.
     
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  7. Star of David Bardsley

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    - The mass sell-off of social housing.

    - NIMBYism with regard to new housing. I think Thatcher created a more selfish mentality than existed previously (having not lived through that era). Blair continued her legacy for sure but then he was more Tory than some Tories.

    - It was and still is undoubtedly in the Tories’ interests to restrict supply of housing given their voters’ demographics.

    Blair and Brown were far from perfect but I still believe Thatcher (and Thatcherism) is the root cause, as I said.

    There are other factors, of course. People don’t want to live in random under-populated parts of the north and Scotland but where people have no links to London, particularly in the most over-subscribed boroughs, it seems logical to not house them there.
     
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  8. rangercol

    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    Didn't you know?

    If you're left wing, Thatcher was and is responsible for everything and anything they don't agree with or believe in.

    It's just a ridiculous thing to say that Thatcher is responsible for everything that is wrong in today's Britain.
     
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  9. Star of David Bardsley

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    Has anyone said that though or are you just getting yourself worked up again?
     
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    She was wrong at the time goldy. To the elite in london, the North is a fabled place only read about in books
     
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  11. bobmid

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    I agree col but she was a heartless bitch who didnt give a flying **** about the lower classes
     
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    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    I'm King in the North and what I say goes from now on. Can someone pass that on to Boris Cummings for me please.
     
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  13. Star of David Bardsley

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    Was Stoke ever nice though?
     
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  14. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    Still South to me, way way south. The North stretches much further mate
     
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  15. Star of David Bardsley

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    Stoke is surely where the true north begins even if you buy into this “Midlands” bollocks.
     
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    It's pretty much what you said:

    "Like most issues in this country Thatcher is the root cause".

    It's just a simplistic, childish, Tory hating sound bite which doesn't make any sense.

    Thatcher made some bad calls, but also turned the country around when we were the poor man of Europe.
    Also, that was a generation ago.
    Pretty much where we'll be again if your mate Corbyn gets his way.
     
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  17. Star of David Bardsley

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    I don’t care much for Corbyn. The root cause just initiates a problem. It doesn’t mean I’m saying she’s directly accountable for all of it.
     
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  18. rangercol

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    I don't blame you for back tracking.
    Don't worry, we all get it wrong on occasion.

    I thought May would do OK as PM and look what happened there!
     
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  19. Star of David Bardsley

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    Explaining to you the definition of a word isn’t backtracking, Col.
     
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  20. rangercol

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    Which word was that teacher?
     
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