Match Day Thread Burnley v Saints Saturday 10th August 3pm

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**** me, we're really clutching at straws if we're blaming the weather rather than Ralph

How long does he get before criticism is allowed?
 
xG courtesy of @Caley_graphics
Burnley 1.2 - 1.1 Southampton

Be interesting to see if whoever does the BBC’s agrees with that later on. Trouble as ever is that we concede very big chances when individual errors happen, because otherwise for the first hour we would’ve been in control.
 
xG courtesy of @Caley_graphics
Burnley 1.2 - 1.1 Southampton

Be interesting to see if whoever does the BBC’s agrees with that later on. Trouble as ever is that we concede very big chances when individual errors happen, because otherwise for the first hour we would’ve been in control.

And equally, Burnley have developed a habit over the past two seasons of being exceptionally clinical with what few chances they do create. Their ratio of goals scored to chances created was something like the third best in the league last year.

The total opposite to us since Ron left.
 
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And equally, Burnley have developed a habit over the past two seasons of being exceptionally clinical with what few chances they do create. Their ratio of goals scored to chances created was something like the third best in the league last year.

The total opposite to us since Ron left.

Stylistic difference definitely play a role. While we were better in the second half under Ralph last year, we have for some time specialized in creating half-chances that we lacked the capacity to turn into goals, while Burnley has a talent for generating and then converting a handful of gilt-edged moments per game.

Edit: if you're a non-elite team and want to beat us, play like Burnley. Playing the ball long limits the effectiveness of our press, and limiting our press vastly reduces our ability to attack, because (at least with the current lineup) we aren't terribly creative in anything but a straight line. And punting puts our back three in the spotlight, which doesn't generally end well. Dealing with direct play is mostly about composure and awareness, and our defense struggles mightily to keep track of what is happening around it.
 
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And equally, Burnley have developed a habit over the past two seasons of being exceptionally clinical with what few chances they do create. Their ratio of goals scored to chances created was something like the third best in the league last year.

The total opposite to us since Ron left.

Agree with this. The problem with xG is that it assumes that the quality of the player attempting the finish in each case is the average of players who have attempted that type of finish from that position in the past.

Things such as the finishing ability of the player taking the shot, and in many cases the amount of defensive pressure on the ball at the time of the shot are not factored in. We tend to concede a lot of attempts with comparatively little pressure on the ball due to individual errors, so it can be misleading.
 
For those blaming the weather in part to our defeat .

I think you will find that Burnley played in the same conditions …..

Yes, but as it has been mentioned before, Burnley were at home. Burnley are more used to it than us. In the first half, we had the wind behind us, they did in the second half...but we also had driving rain in our faces, they didn't.

As I said before, not going to get too down over the first game of the season. Up until they scored, I thought we edged it.

Early days, marathon not a sprint. A wise man once said don't get too down when you lose and too high when you win. Or something like that.

Got a nice bottle of FatLeTiss inspired Amarone with my name on it, It is Saturday night, I'm not on call and I am still on this planet. There is always the easier game next week to look forward to.