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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. bobmid

    bobmid Well-Known Member

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    To be fair stroller, theres only yourself making an issue out of this. Just for arguments sake, say kiwis post did have a hint of racism ( not saying it did either way). This one man crusade is futile.
     
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  2. Stroller

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    Well there was also the person that made the original complaint. Maybe others have been put off speaking out for fear of being banned themselves.:emoticon-0100-smile (smiley denoting not meant to be taken literally)

    Seriously, why does everyone pussyfoot around this? A hint of racism (maybe, maybe not). Really?
     
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  3. Woodyhoopleson

    Woodyhoopleson Well-Known Member

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    Stroller is a passionate geezer. Fair play to him.
     
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    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    While I know that ignoring a problem is hardly a solution to it, it has improved the quality of my board interaction experience immensely. Give it a go.
     
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  5. DT’s Socks

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    I maintain open and honestly that not one of us is 100% non racist ... I believe it’s a natural thing within all humans like it or not

    Easy declaring that I am not a racist it’s a defence mechanism imo. An uncomfortable feeling from an experience however small ... a trace element will be programmed in there some where

    Its our definition of racism that continues to confuse us all.
     
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  6. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Yasmin alibhai-brown‏@y_alibhai Jul 22
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    Off to @SkyNews to talk about the state we are in. Promise not to speculate on what the young mistress will wear as she swans into Downing St to live with a still married man she wanted to get off her but weeks back.

    go on
    speculate
    then go to heathrow
    silly woman
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    Everything you say I'll probably be agreeing with in a couple of months time.
    But in my opinion, you're not giving him any time whatsoever to put words into action.

    Doom and gloom needs to be replaced by "Can do".
     
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    rangercol Well-Known Member

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    You've got form for accusing people of racism.
     
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    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Thanks.

    Yes, I will call it out when I see it.
     
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    At least Boris doesnt want a no deal thank god. Will give him that much......unless hes lieing
     
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    He has 99 days Col, and he set the deadline himself.
     
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    Yep straight from his mouth even now he gets it
    That is not project fear it’s common sense so bollocks to any idiot Brexiteers who actually still believe a no deal is the way to go
     
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    I don’t understand why the media are going on about a ‘cabinet purge’ and the largest number of ministers ever being sacked. Isn’t this a brand new government, new policies, new boss and so on? What else would be expected? It’s not as if Johnson was a ‘nominated successor’ from within May’s cabinet, quite the reverse.

    Most interesting appointment is former Vote Leave director Dominic Cummings as his Special Advisor, the man played by Benedict Cumberbatch on the telly. He is a grade A nutter, but very bright indeed, an incredibly explosive combination. David Cameron described him (in 2014, way before a referendum was even promised) as a ‘career psychopath’. The prediction is that he will fall out with Johnson very quickly and write brutally about him on his blog.
     
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    Keep going fella, it's a slippery slope if people don't call out bigotry. You just have to see Trump telling people to 'go home' and playing the anti american card rather than accepting it's the current administration they have problems with. Even if by some way you can justify to yourself that what he said was acceptable, it wasn't, these sorta words empower racists and bigots, you just have to look at the support he got.

    Keep up the good fight :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    If you want to call out racism, why don't you do so in the Labour Party, where everyone, Labour MP's included, admit it's endemic and vile, involving physical threats and Labour MP's needing police escorts at Labour Party conferences?

    You ignore that, and chase Kiwi! Is it a diversionary tactic?
     
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    Anti-semitism in the Labour party seems to be only kind of racism that you think needs addressing. I'm not a Labour party member, so can't do much about it, but I have acknowledged that it's a problem and I have been critical of Corbyn for not dealing with it in a sufficiently robust fashion, although he seems to have now grasped that nettle.

    There, now would you like to talk about Islamophobia in the Tory party? Or Trump's racism? Or Johnson's?

    Thought not.

    By the way, you didn't answer the question in the post you responded to. Was my PM to the supermod about Kiwi worthy of a ban, would you say?
     
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    I've never seen you critical of Corbyn's part in the anti-semitism of his party until now. It's a start.

    I find it hard to see Boris is a racist when he appoints ethnic minorities to his key cabinet posts. He doesn't like the face mask. Is that racist in your book?

    Trump is a different case. Some of his stuff is racist imo, though not necessarily black v white. He would be just as racist if an American of Russian heritage espoused communism from the Democrat side.

    It really is not wise to imply to a mod that he or she is not doing his or her job properly in order for a quiet life. Argue a case by all means, but that kind of criticism/abuse won't go down well
     
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    You obviously haven't been paying sufficient attention to my posts. I have been critical of Corbyn, but not for his part in Labour anti-semitism (you're twisting my words there), but for not dealing with it more quickly. I don't see Johnson's appointment of Javid and Patel to key posts as proof that he isn't racist (he could hardly have selected an all white cabinet, could he?), but I do think that his stuff about piccaninnies with watermelon smiles was racist. On face masks, I'm not so sure. I don't like them either - it's a ridiculous get-up if you ask me - and if women are being forced to wear it, it's just plain wrong. However, some women presumably choose to dress that way and to describe them as letterboxes is offensive. Trump is a racist, end of story. I'm not sure where communism comes into it.
     
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    I think the diversion tactics are coming from your, and the political element you seem to support, continual harping on about anti semitism in the Labour party, which while no doubt exists, mostly isnt anti -semitic at all but criticism of the Israeli state. I'm in little doubt there is far wider racism In the Conservative party,, the scale of accusations of Islamophobia point to this, and Windrush showed it is extremely nasty.
     
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