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merrysuperstevie said:
It isn't. But Chelsea are going to sweep up points like your finest Dyson. We just have to hold them up because we've made no effort to improve upon our crap midfield and we still have to play Chelsea twice. They will win it and when they do, no one will take this value nonsense seriously any longer.
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When Carrol is worth just a smidge under Rooney + Vidic then there is no value
 
four2three1 said:
We could have essien, Sneidjer and fabregas in our midfield and we still would lose.
Might spending Madrid lost 5-0. So Ozil, Di maria and Xavi Alonso maust be Crap?
Who are we fooling?
If you are expecting us to rival Barcelona then you are mistaken.
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Ok well in comparrison to chelsea, arsenal, spurs and madrid our midfeild is crap. Now we should be on a level playing feild to those.
 
merrysuperstevie said:
Should have been addressed sooner and would have been done by now had it not been for our bestowed "cast of Wrong Turn" owners. Glazers are ****s and one look at our revenue v expenditure figures will tell you that, regardless of what fergie says.
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Yeah, essentially all boils down to them.
 
Alex said:
When Carrol is worth just a smidge under Rooney + Vidic then there is no value
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When Sigurdsson (the brilliant attacking midfielder who moved from Reading to Hoffenheim) moves for £5 million, you have to ask what we were playing at. Value is there, but if you're too cheap to make a serious effort to find it, then you'll be left with our midfield and the prospect of Chelsea coming from nowhere. Seriously, though, Sigurdsson (first name Gylfi) is amazing but we ignored him. Proper value there.
 
Alex said:
When Carrol is worth just a smidge under Rooney + Vidic then there is no value
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Rafeal Van Der Vaart, Mesut Oezil and plenty others prove there is value in the market. Its a load of cobblers.

And anyway I dont give a flying one how much players cost these days. tickets cost a ****ing fortune, that money should be going on players no matter how much they cost.
 
four2three1 said:
Yeah, essentially all boils down to them.
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I always feel that way but until Fergie says as such, you can't say a word against them in many fans views. Fergie is doing a great job imo because he's operating with 2 hands behind his back but until he says as such, people will say the owners are fine.
 
merrysuperstevie said:
When Sigurdsson (the brilliant attacking midfielder who moved from Reading to Hoffenheim) moves for £5 million, you have to ask what we were playing at. Value is there, but if you're too cheap to make a serious effort to find it, then you'll be left with our midfield and the prospect of Chelsea coming from nowhere. Seriously, though, Sigurdsson (first name Gylfi) is amazing but we ignored him. Proper value there.
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Agreed.
Also Why Fergie bought Bebe and made no effort to sign Ozil or Van Der Vaart for under 10mil. I will never know.

Can only imagine if we had signed Essien back then....
 
merrysuperstevie said:
When Sigurdsson (the brilliant attacking midfielder who moved from Reading to Hoffenheim) moves for £5 million, you have to ask what we were playing at. Value is there, but if you're too cheap to make a serious effort to find it, then you'll be left with our midfield and the prospect of Chelsea coming from nowhere. Seriously, though, Sigurdsson (first name Gylfi) is amazing but we ignored him. Proper value there.
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Instead we went and bought that useless peice of garbage Bebe, thus wasting 4 or so million on a player who hadnt seen the light of top class football. Who buys a thrid division player for 4 million? Wheres the value in that.
 
merrysuperstevie said:
I always feel that way but until Fergie says as such, you can't say a word against them in many fans views. Fergie is doing a great job imo because he's operating with 2 hands behind his back but until he says as such, people will say the owners are fine.
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About the only positive I can see iss that they don't get involved with silly stunts like gning players that Fergie doesn't wan't (Shevchenko, Robinho etc.)
Or sacking assistants with no warning.

But Fergie can't anything bad about them, He'll be out the door.
 
four2three1 said:
Agreed.
Also Why Fergie bought Bebe and made no effort to sign Ozil or Van Der Vaart for under 10mil. I will never know.

Can only imagine if we had signed Essien back then....
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Hey, we're on the same page after all lol. I am a huge fan of Ozil and German football in general and Van der Vaart has been brilliant for Spurs. I just think, with Bebe, fergie put faith in Quieroz and Quieroz was off his head on crack at the time. Ridiculous. What it showed was he wanted a new star to break through and wasn't able to do it through mainstream buys which, of course, brings me back to our owners.
 
TheStrettyEnd said:
Instead we went and bought that useless peice of garbage Bebe, thus wasting 4 or so million on a player who hadnt seen the light of top class football. Who buys a thrid division player for 4 million? Wheres the value in that.
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£7 million, Even worse.
Fergie didn't even see him play.
He only bought him because if we didn't Real were going to, and he didn't want to lose out.
He is awful.
 
merrysuperstevie said:
Hey, we're on the same page after all lol. I am a huge fan of Ozil and German football in general and Van der Vaart has been brilliant for Spurs. I just think, with Bebe, fergie put faith in Quieroz and Quieroz was off his head on crack at the time. Ridiculous. What it showed was he wanted a new star to break through and wasn't able to do it through mainstream buys which, of course, brings me back to our owners.
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Yeah queiroz must do drugs a lot, last player he reccomended us before bebe was manucho, I dont think he likes utd too much does old CQ <laugh>
 
four2three1 said:
About the only positive I can see iss that they don't get involved with silly stunts like gning players that Fergie doesn't wan't (Shevchenko, Robinho etc.)
Or sacking assistants with no warning.

But Fergie can't anything bad about them, He'll be out the door.
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Yeah I agree. What people keep saying is that fergie would never operate under that arrangement. In the past, that may have been true but now, he's admitted he isn't getting any younger and wants to lead us for as long as he can (and I couldn't think of anyone better, much as I've ranted) and I just think that he is accepting conditions that in the past he would have baulked at because I don't see how he could have been happy with us having next tp nothing to spend when our midfield is suspect.
 
four2three1 said:
.... and We haven't even thought about how we are going to fund for a keeper :(
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I think there is money there for a keeper but it will be the cheapest option still. Stekelenberg will come about £10 million cheaper than he rest of those touted so looks a certainty. Having said that, he looks like a decent keeper and I'd be happy with that signing.
 
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